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Are there any conspiracy theories you believe in?

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Errors · 22/12/2024 18:07

Inspired by another thread

I find conspiracy theories really interesting. I have never ‘believed’ any of them, more enjoy discussing them and how likely it seems that they could be true. I also think it’s more far fetched to believe that everything we have ever been told or ever will be told is the whole truth.

Are there any CTs you believe in? Lead me down a rabbit hole please!

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Corinthiana · 23/12/2024 08:20

pushchairprincess · 23/12/2024 08:18

There is no evidence that she gave birth - why did the obstetrician 'delivered; Lilibet close her practice and disappear, why were there photos Getty images of her - on the same day have differing bump sizes, both ginger to suit the narrative -ginger is a recessive gene, no afro.
The fact that Harry has had is parentage questioned throughout all his life (James Hewitt) you would have thought he would have quashed the rumours for the sake of his 'children' who are not going through much worse.

I don't know what "ginger" has to do with anything.
Harry is not exactly a reliable narrator, so I wouldn't give any credence to what he said.

FeegleFrenzy · 23/12/2024 08:23

Ghgggggg · 23/12/2024 08:05

After having a Covid vaccine injury I absolutely hate the conspiracy theories around it. Also the other side that insist it was completely safe. There is a middle ground where some people had heart damage, blood clotting problems and nerve damage. We should be able to talk about it openly. I was hospitalized, my case fully investigated and diagnosed, then officially accepted as a vaccine injury. The reality is lost under the noise of the conspiracies and also the insistence it is completely safe (there are government payouts and autopsies that definitively show for some it was not).

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Agree. Dd got a pulmonary embolism after her covid vaccine. A healthy 21yo, no risk factors, not on the pill. But people look at me like I’m a nut job anti vaxxer if i mention it.

AwfullyWeeBillyBigchin · 23/12/2024 08:23

Shmee1988 · 22/12/2024 22:44

I'd say you should try meeting just one of the hundreds of people who now have incurable conditions due to the covid jab. See if you feel the same way then. Id say it is you, who is low on both intelligence and information.

But you'll happily overlook the billions who received the vaccines but were unaffected? 🤔

And ignore the fact that no one claimed there were no possible ill effects from the vaccines? Did you forget why the AZ vaccine was withdrawn from use? 🤨

sashh · 23/12/2024 08:24

Ohhbaby · 23/12/2024 07:54

@sashh What? I quoted the article because I was told "they never told us it was 100% effective".
Quite right it wasn't peer reviewed (or true).
I'm saying that not everything we read was true and it was unfair to call the people rightly speaking about immunity and unpeerreviewed articles, conspiracy theorists.

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I understand your point. I just thought it was a poor example.

The 'they never told us...' needs to say who 'never told us', a report in a newspaper about a trial is not IMHO reliable. I used to work in Cardiology and the things newspapers / journalists put often has no resemblance to reality.

Simple things like a heart attack and a cardiac arrest being different things. I caught the end of a 24 hours in A and E type programme yesterday, it was a Australian version and the recap at the end told me that 'doctors put a stent in X's heart'. No they didn't, stents go in the coronary arteries.

Luddite26 · 23/12/2024 08:25

Corinthiana · 23/12/2024 07:37

Meghan Markle was divorced, yet was married in St George's Chapel in a C of E service, by the Archbishop of Canterbury.

Yes more hypocrisy when every day couples aren't given permission

CJsGoldfish · 23/12/2024 08:25

Ohhbaby · 23/12/2024 05:51

Haha I do love the 'im so intelligent, I don't believe so called conspiracy theories".
You do realise that
*COVID came from a lab
*The vax isn't 100% effective
*They are censoring social media
Et cetera
We're all once deemed conspiracy theorists.

Once people claimed that the US government we're testing LSD on civilians. Hard conspiracy theory, I mean, why would the government test drugs on its own people. ??
Well, u til it was proven true.
The US government did test LSD, mostly on unwitting army soldiers.

Obviously not all 'conspiracy theories' are true, but most have some shred of truth to them, otherwise no one would even start to believe it, and many others are just called conspiracy theories because they have not been proven to be true at the time.
I actually think just mindlessly calling people who actually considers conspiracy theories, unintelligent, is unintelligent and guillable.
A lot of them have been very very very true.
You just weren't privy to all the info

COVID very well could have come from a lab but there is no definitive evidence either way.
No vax is 100% effective and I don't think any believes they are
Social media has always been censored, hasn't it?

The MKUltra program that you refer to isn't, or wasn't, a conspiracy theory 🤷‍♀️
It was terribly unethical and immoral but doesn't fit the bill as a 'conspiracy theory'

Calling people who believe in conspiracy theories unintelligent and gullible isn't mindless 🤷‍♀️

Interestingly, narcissists are more likely to believe in conspiracy theories 🤣

MonaLisaDoesntSmile · 23/12/2024 08:26

The Dyatlov Pass- amazing reading and clearly there was a cover up on the side of the USSR government.

The fact the US knew about Pearl Harbour attack (and WTC) before they happened, but they needed an excuse to launch themselves into the war(s) and needed a sacrifice to convinve the public the war is necessary.

Luddite26 · 23/12/2024 08:27

Oh they were also married in their back yard by the archbishop too allegedly.

snowmichael · 23/12/2024 08:27

Corinthiana · 22/12/2024 19:46

What's your evidence that she knew about Savile and was going public with this knowledge?

There is none

Lemonadeand · 23/12/2024 08:28

FeegleFrenzy · 23/12/2024 08:23

Agree. Dd got a pulmonary embolism after her covid vaccine. A healthy 21yo, no risk factors, not on the pill. But people look at me like I’m a nut job anti vaxxer if i mention it.

There needs to be more reactions on here, like the shocked face.

Ohhbaby · 23/12/2024 08:29

sashh · 23/12/2024 08:24

I understand your point. I just thought it was a poor example.

The 'they never told us...' needs to say who 'never told us', a report in a newspaper about a trial is not IMHO reliable. I used to work in Cardiology and the things newspapers / journalists put often has no resemblance to reality.

Simple things like a heart attack and a cardiac arrest being different things. I caught the end of a 24 hours in A and E type programme yesterday, it was a Australian version and the recap at the end told me that 'doctors put a stent in X's heart'. No they didn't, stents go in the coronary arteries.

I hear you, but do you think the populus looks at whether an article was peer reviewed?
A lot of us do, which is why we said, Whoah Whoah Whoah, these articles aren't reviewed, the studies arent cross checked etc. Why are the guidelines what they are, re COVID.
It's hard to go back to find the guidelines that CDC put out, as it has since been updated on their website.
I tried to show the pp who said that "no one ever said it was 100% effective" that they did.
And yeah, some of us said what a minute go to the original research etc, but most people don't do that.

snowmichael · 23/12/2024 08:29

Corinthiana · 22/12/2024 19:48

She wasn't wearing a seatbelt. If she'd put it on, she would have survived. Her decision.

Much more likely to have survived, but it was a very bad smash, no certainty

pushchairprincess · 23/12/2024 08:29

Corinthiana · 23/12/2024 08:20

I don't know what "ginger" has to do with anything.
Harry is not exactly a reliable narrator, so I wouldn't give any credence to what he said.

The red haired gene is recessive - is it likely that both would be read haired and not have black hair like their 'mom' ? being redheaded suits that narrative. I do believe that they may be Harrys children, and maybe using MM's eggs - but do believe they came from surrigate births and should not be in the line of succession.
I feel truly sorry for these children growing up not being part of a family -however dysfunctional (arnt all families) knowing that they were kept from their families when they grow up will create a huge impact on those two.

Lemonadeand · 23/12/2024 08:30

Luddite26 · 23/12/2024 08:25

Yes more hypocrisy when every day couples aren't given permission

Very unusual for the CofE not to marry divorcees nowadays. I married a divorcee in a CofE church.

anotherside · 23/12/2024 08:30

nellythe · 22/12/2024 18:11

Princess Diana’s death wasn’t a simple accident. Too well timed.

Other than that, I don’t think I believe in many!

Agree. Just way, way too convenient for certain members of the establishment.

Lemonadeand · 23/12/2024 08:31

Luddite26 · 23/12/2024 07:09

Maybe while he is head of the C of E he could make it more acceptable for couples to be remarried in church if the King is allowed to be married to a divorced. I just find that hypocritical not that I am religious.

It’s very normal for divorcees to remarry in a CofE church? Has been for about three decades.

AwfullyWeeBillyBigchin · 23/12/2024 08:31

Moonfasa100 · 23/12/2024 00:08

Because a lot of historical records document his existence.

There are no extra-biblical sources from anyone who met him, only stories passed on. Absolutely nothing that can be independently verified.

Corinthiana · 23/12/2024 08:32

anotherside · 23/12/2024 08:30

Agree. Just way, way too convenient for certain members of the establishment.

No, it was wildly inconvenient , created a ludicrous myth and cult around Diana and made the RF very unpopular.
It would have been far better for them if she just carried on what she was doing. She got a lot of negative press and was no saint.

Luddite26 · 23/12/2024 08:32

Suppose it depends where then as I know 3 who haven't been allowed 1 this year.

ForGreyKoala · 23/12/2024 08:33

Moonfasa100 · 22/12/2024 23:57

It was too convenient!

If she was alive she would have grown in popularity, and the public never would have accepted Camilla.

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You are a deluded fool, who seems to think they were the only person on MN alive at the same time as Diana. Lots of us were also alive, we know what people thought about her at the time of her death, and she wasn't nearly as popular, or relevant, as you seem to think.

ThisBrickPombear · 23/12/2024 08:33

DowntonNabby · 22/12/2024 18:44

JFK's assassination – the trajectory of the bullets into his skull prove shots were fired from the grassy knoll as well as from the book depository.

I also have doubts about the moon landing. It makes no sense that no nation has ever returned.

There have been six trips to the moon! The last one in 1972!

Corinthiana · 23/12/2024 08:33

pushchairprincess · 23/12/2024 08:29

The red haired gene is recessive - is it likely that both would be read haired and not have black hair like their 'mom' ? being redheaded suits that narrative. I do believe that they may be Harrys children, and maybe using MM's eggs - but do believe they came from surrigate births and should not be in the line of succession.
I feel truly sorry for these children growing up not being part of a family -however dysfunctional (arnt all families) knowing that they were kept from their families when they grow up will create a huge impact on those two.

The children could have the red hair gene from Thomas Markle's side.

AwfullyWeeBillyBigchin · 23/12/2024 08:34

BoundaryGirl3939 · 23/12/2024 00:11

Because we all have a soul (mind-body-spirit) which recognises who is the true God. People just know because they have an inherent link to their creator. We all have a 6th sense, higher intelligence which informs us. Our conscience speaks to us all the time.

I've read the bible which I believe is God sent. It can't be but God sent. Nothing triggers Hollywood like Jesus Christ. He shines a light on evil which is why He is hated.

All of that is completely untrue. You claim it to be true, but it literally cannot be proven to be so.

Corinthiana · 23/12/2024 08:34

ThisBrickPombear · 23/12/2024 08:33

There have been six trips to the moon! The last one in 1972!

Plus, the whole space programme has evolved into the space station and exploring further eg Mars.

pushchairprincess · 23/12/2024 08:35

Ghosts / spirits exist - there is no evidence in life after death - and spiritualists and ghost hunters have made a significant wealth on faking connections and footage of ghosts.

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