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AIBU to feel completely distressed by the viral video of the aftermath of onlyfans worker Lily P 'sleeping with' 100 men?

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MumOfOneAllAlone · 11/12/2024 09:48

I've tried to word this carefully.

Lily, an onlyfans star, aged 20something I'm guessing, slept with 100 men in one go, as part of a documentary.

Following this, she's on camera crying. She says her eyes hurt as some of the men ejaculated in them, despite her saying no.

My heart is broken for this girl. Im a feminist but I've never thought of sex work as being empowering?

Surely, the empowerment of sex work has failed this poor girl? And surely the 100 men who agreed to do this are criminals???

I'm so angry. You could see in the video that Lily is realising what a mistake this was and is very traumatised.

Anyway, didn't see a thread on this so thought I'd post. My heart goes out to her, and my brain feels very angry at those who failed to protect her.

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Petrasings · 12/12/2024 16:50

NewBootsWeather · 12/12/2024 16:47

What about the degrading of 18 year old virgins who were probably shy and inexperienced with girls and were probably embarrassed as their mates had all been with a girl and they hadn't?

So the women used them to make more money.

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It’s nothing like on the same scale. So many misogynists on this thread.

NewBootsWeather · 12/12/2024 16:50

Petrasings · 12/12/2024 16:50

It’s nothing like on the same scale. So many misogynists on this thread.

Why is it not on the same scale?

I'm actually disgusted with your comment.

NewBootsWeather · 12/12/2024 16:54

Petrasings · 12/12/2024 16:50

It’s nothing like on the same scale. So many misogynists on this thread.

Explain why we are the misogynists and not Bonnie and Lily.

Calling women Karens & offering to have sex with other womans Husbands.

They are hardly there for the other women.

SaMMaxis170 · 12/12/2024 16:58

Petrasings · 12/12/2024 16:44

There are an awful lot of apologists on here. I am all for liberty, but the degradation of a woman like this is unacceptable to me, and most in a civilised society. Thankfully.

im all for liberty and in this case the liberty was used by an individual and legally and this was the results, either people want more laws and the nanny state or they want more freedom and liberty and the results of using that freedom and liberty

DogandMog · 12/12/2024 17:00

I watched the minute long clip on twitter of her… she looked absolutely haunted and lost, not just a bit upset and having a blub like when your date doesn’t text you back. Sex is profoundly consequential… it’s the gateway to how the next generation gets into the world, it creates soul bonds between pairs - man & woman and thence mother & infant, and it gets profoundly messy when we frivolously fuck around with those processes. I pray Lily finds healing and wholeness.

McNicey · 12/12/2024 17:00

NewBootsWeather · 12/12/2024 16:54

Explain why we are the misogynists and not Bonnie and Lily.

Calling women Karens & offering to have sex with other womans Husbands.

They are hardly there for the other women.

I resent being called a misogynist because I do not have any sympathy for the grotesque attention seeking, money grabbing exploits of two grown women.

The trend to victimize a young woman who has made definitive choices while monetizing them really pisses me off and does nothing but detract from REAL victims.

I have pity for Lily, nothing more.

Startinganew32 · 12/12/2024 17:00

Petrasings · 12/12/2024 16:50

It’s nothing like on the same scale. So many misogynists on this thread.

Bonnie was literally stood outside Nottingham Trent Uni inviting young boys to have sex with her on film. It’s definitely on the same scale.

Bonnie and Lily are the misogynists imo. Calling women Karen, saying they deserve to be cheated on, organising meet and cheat, referring to themselves as sluts and slags.

Startinganew32 · 12/12/2024 17:02

DogandMog · 12/12/2024 17:00

I watched the minute long clip on twitter of her… she looked absolutely haunted and lost, not just a bit upset and having a blub like when your date doesn’t text you back. Sex is profoundly consequential… it’s the gateway to how the next generation gets into the world, it creates soul bonds between pairs - man & woman and thence mother & infant, and it gets profoundly messy when we frivolously fuck around with those processes. I pray Lily finds healing and wholeness.

Yeah I’m sure Lily sees it that way and will no doubt create plenty of soul bonds when she fucks a thousand men in a day next year. She didn’t look any more haunted than she usually does.

SabreIsMyFave · 12/12/2024 17:09

@Petrasings · Today 16:44

There are an awful lot of apologists on here. I am all for liberty, but the degradation of a woman like this is unacceptable to me, and most in a civilised society. Thankfully.

I agree with you. 👏

Petrasings · 12/12/2024 17:10

It’s not hard to spot the men and incels on here, very illuminating.

NewBootsWeather · 12/12/2024 17:12

Petrasings · 12/12/2024 17:10

It’s not hard to spot the men and incels on here, very illuminating.

You are deluded if you think we are men.

NonPlayerCharacter · 12/12/2024 17:13

Petrasings · 12/12/2024 17:10

It’s not hard to spot the men and incels on here, very illuminating.

They never appear on the zillions of threads by women in abusive relationships or vulnerable kids. Give them something like this and they descend like locusts to defend rape and castigate the woman involved while ignoring all the men and plainly getting off on the whole thing. They're just sickening but sadly they're not unusual.

SaMMaxis170 · 12/12/2024 17:15

Petrasings · 12/12/2024 17:10

It’s not hard to spot the men and incels on here, very illuminating.

and its also interesting to see how people want others to have the freedom and power and make individual choices and yet when they make those choices or use that freedom etc somehow its everyone else's fault for making the most of that opportunity ,

can you imagine the reactions from people if bonnie was male doing that.
talk about sexist attitudes.
from people male or female wanting to sleep with 100's of people should both have laws put in place to prevent this behaviours

Startinganew32 · 12/12/2024 17:17

Petrasings · 12/12/2024 17:10

It’s not hard to spot the men and incels on here, very illuminating.

Men and incels? I am neither one of those. Just because I’m not crying over someone who has made millions of pounds from doing this sort of thing and shows no signs of being exploited whatsoever. Why should I do that? There are so many awful things to get upset about and Lily Philips getting ejaculate in her eyes is not one of them.

OonaStubbs · 12/12/2024 17:17

i don't believe sex is a sacred act or anything like that but a woman willingly having sex with 100 men a day without protection for fame and money is just wrong.

SocksAndTheCity · 12/12/2024 17:18

Sex can do all those things @DogandMog , but it's also a casual, recreational activity that a lot of people enjoy without giving it much more thought than that. That's why the likes of Tinder exist, even if a lot of people (including me) wouldn't dream of using it.

This woman's behaviour may be unacceptable to you @Petrasings , but there is nothing anywhere to suggest she is in any way 'degraded'. She has organised the whole thing for her own reasons and of her own volition, and if you agree that women should have their agency respected, then you also have to agree that some of them will do things you don't like and wouldn't do yourself.

Sorshpans · 12/12/2024 17:18

McNicey · 12/12/2024 17:00

I resent being called a misogynist because I do not have any sympathy for the grotesque attention seeking, money grabbing exploits of two grown women.

The trend to victimize a young woman who has made definitive choices while monetizing them really pisses me off and does nothing but detract from REAL victims.

I have pity for Lily, nothing more.

Yeah it’s very tedious. On social media there is a meme about “supporting women’s rights …and wrongs”.

It’s a joke to an extent and yeah quite witty, but I do get the impression a lot of women seriously do live by this.

Woman making terrible choices does not equal blameless victim.

This woman or a woman like her was bragging about the fact many if not most of these men have partners who don’t excite them as much

Sure the blame largely lies with the vile men for cheating, and in this fashion - as she’s not the one in a relationship but it’s still awful of her to happily engage in this and be smug about it.

This kind of stunt is part of a very specific type of moral decay we are seeing.

SocksAndTheCity · 12/12/2024 17:20

NewBootsWeather · 12/12/2024 17:12

You are deluded if you think we are men.

Indeed. It's incredible how some people's misogyny is so ingrained that they cannot comprehend that a woman who thinks differently to them can't possibly exist and must therefore be a man.

SabreIsMyFave · 12/12/2024 17:23

NonPlayerCharacter · 12/12/2024 17:13

They never appear on the zillions of threads by women in abusive relationships or vulnerable kids. Give them something like this and they descend like locusts to defend rape and castigate the woman involved while ignoring all the men and plainly getting off on the whole thing. They're just sickening but sadly they're not unusual.

This. ^ 👏 I pray these apologists don't have daughters!

NonPlayerCharacter · 12/12/2024 17:24

NewBootsWeather · 12/12/2024 17:12

You are deluded if you think we are men.

Oh the one saying that promiscuous women deserve to be forced and sticking the tongue emoji on it while acting moral outrage was definitely a man. He reminded me of my dad.

SabreIsMyFave · 12/12/2024 17:24

SocksAndTheCity · 12/12/2024 17:18

Sex can do all those things @DogandMog , but it's also a casual, recreational activity that a lot of people enjoy without giving it much more thought than that. That's why the likes of Tinder exist, even if a lot of people (including me) wouldn't dream of using it.

This woman's behaviour may be unacceptable to you @Petrasings , but there is nothing anywhere to suggest she is in any way 'degraded'. She has organised the whole thing for her own reasons and of her own volition, and if you agree that women should have their agency respected, then you also have to agree that some of them will do things you don't like and wouldn't do yourself.

Good grief! Confused

SocksAndTheCity · 12/12/2024 17:26

SabreIsMyFave · 12/12/2024 17:24

Good grief! Confused

Did you not know about casual sex then, @SabreIsMyFave ? Women have it all the time.

soupfiend · 12/12/2024 17:29

SabreIsMyFave · 12/12/2024 17:24

Good grief! Confused

What does your comment mean?

Startinganew32 · 12/12/2024 17:30

SabreIsMyFave · 12/12/2024 17:23

This. ^ 👏 I pray these apologists don't have daughters!

Apologist? I hardly think what she’s doing is good - I think she’s quite vile. However, she’s choosing to do it so what on earth can anyone do about it? She’s an adult and she’s making loads of money and is in control of the process. Nobody is pimping her out and nobody profits apart from her employees which is not profiting - it’s being paid. I don’t give a shit about the hundreds of men sleeping with her - they seem a bit grim but she’s consenting and she makes the money, they don’t. Her entire social media consists of encouraging guys to sleep with her and how to get in touch if they want to. They are absolutely nothing like the Gisele Pelicot men who knew she was unconscious.

NonPlayerCharacter · 12/12/2024 17:30

SabreIsMyFave · 12/12/2024 17:23

This. ^ 👏 I pray these apologists don't have daughters!

Unfortunately, it's very possible that they have. It will ingrain their misogyny because now they feel they own a woman.

My father was one of these. He thought he was clever, morally superior and, despite his clear loathing of women, he thought he came over like a cheeky charmer. I think tongue emoji boy thought the same. They honestly have no idea how absolutely viscerally repellent they are.

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