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AIBU to feel completely distressed by the viral video of the aftermath of onlyfans worker Lily P 'sleeping with' 100 men?

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MumOfOneAllAlone · 11/12/2024 09:48

I've tried to word this carefully.

Lily, an onlyfans star, aged 20something I'm guessing, slept with 100 men in one go, as part of a documentary.

Following this, she's on camera crying. She says her eyes hurt as some of the men ejaculated in them, despite her saying no.

My heart is broken for this girl. Im a feminist but I've never thought of sex work as being empowering?

Surely, the empowerment of sex work has failed this poor girl? And surely the 100 men who agreed to do this are criminals???

I'm so angry. You could see in the video that Lily is realising what a mistake this was and is very traumatised.

Anyway, didn't see a thread on this so thought I'd post. My heart goes out to her, and my brain feels very angry at those who failed to protect her.

OP posts:
User135644 · 11/12/2024 22:06

Just another day in the west.

Degenerate society.

MumOfOneAllAlone · 11/12/2024 22:07

HebburnPokemon · 11/12/2024 22:02

Was she crying because she was upset or were her eyes weeping because of their contents?

I haven’t seen the vid.

Because she was upset, although sperm being in her eyes was furthering her distress

OP posts:
WasThatACorner · 11/12/2024 22:07

NewBootsWeather · 11/12/2024 22:04

I don't care what she is doing.

Don't do it, then cry about about it, then do it again.

Your message would be clearer if you just screamed "SHUT UP, VICTIMS OF TRAUMA WHO ARE TRYING TO REGAIN CONTROL IN FLAWED WAYS".

HTH

WasThatACorner · 11/12/2024 22:08

User135644 · 11/12/2024 22:06

Just another day in the west.

Degenerate society.

Evident on mumsnet today

NewBootsWeather · 11/12/2024 22:11

WasThatACorner · 11/12/2024 22:07

Your message would be clearer if you just screamed "SHUT UP, VICTIMS OF TRAUMA WHO ARE TRYING TO REGAIN CONTROL IN FLAWED WAYS".

HTH

Whatever trauma you have experienced I feel bad for you but I'm sorry Bonnie Blue and Lily are taking the piss out of you. They do not share the same experiences as you. I feel sad for you.

WasThatACorner · 11/12/2024 22:12

soupfiend · 11/12/2024 21:54

Theres no victim blaming here because theres no victim

Theres someone who did a days work and didnt enjoy every minute of that work, just like most of us have from time to time

The OP starts a thread expecting people to be shocked and upset for her but doesnt seemt o understand, as you dont also, that not everyone agrees that she is a victim or distressed. So no one is 'blaming' her for anything, what people are saying is that they're not shocked or distressed because its something she chose to do and its her job.

A commenter doesn't agree or understand that trauma is nuanced and presents in many ways.

There is no victim here because nobody cares enough to look beyond the obvious.

WasThatACorner · 11/12/2024 22:14

NewBootsWeather · 11/12/2024 22:11

Whatever trauma you have experienced I feel bad for you but I'm sorry Bonnie Blue and Lily are taking the piss out of you. They do not share the same experiences as you. I feel sad for you.

Edited

My trauma wasn't pleasant.

Lily and Bonnie are choosing to do what they do.

Men are choosing to participate in person or remotely.

Women like you are choosing to vilify the women.

I know who is taking the piss put of feminism and safe spaces.

NewBootsWeather · 11/12/2024 22:14

WasThatACorner · 11/12/2024 22:07

Your message would be clearer if you just screamed "SHUT UP, VICTIMS OF TRAUMA WHO ARE TRYING TO REGAIN CONTROL IN FLAWED WAYS".

HTH

Never, have they talked about women who have been sexually abused. They are not looking out for you. They are not victims.

Startinganew32 · 11/12/2024 22:15

NewBootsWeather · 11/12/2024 22:11

Whatever trauma you have experienced I feel bad for you but I'm sorry Bonnie Blue and Lily are taking the piss out of you. They do not share the same experiences as you. I feel sad for you.

Edited

This. They’d laugh in your face. They are ruthless.

Also in the documentary she does not seem traumatised by having semen in her eyes - she says “I said you can cum on my face but not in my eyes but to be fair I think it was accidental”. People are labelling it as rape which is ludicrous.

The documentary maker clearly has an agenda - he wants to show her as a victim and he gets his brief crying scene. Then she’s online saying she’s going to fuck 1000 guys and he’s confused. She’s playing him.

WasThatACorner · 11/12/2024 22:15

NewBootsWeather · 11/12/2024 22:14

Never, have they talked about women who have been sexually abused. They are not looking out for you. They are not victims.

No, women like you aren't looking out for women.

WasThatACorner · 11/12/2024 22:18

Startinganew32 · 11/12/2024 22:15

This. They’d laugh in your face. They are ruthless.

Also in the documentary she does not seem traumatised by having semen in her eyes - she says “I said you can cum on my face but not in my eyes but to be fair I think it was accidental”. People are labelling it as rape which is ludicrous.

The documentary maker clearly has an agenda - he wants to show her as a victim and he gets his brief crying scene. Then she’s online saying she’s going to fuck 1000 guys and he’s confused. She’s playing him.

Read this post back a few times and see if you can find what you've said.

My issue isn't with the few women who choose to fulfill these male fantasies. It's with the wider societal processes that support and defend the men using these women either in person or remotely.

soupfiend · 11/12/2024 22:19

WasThatACorner · 11/12/2024 22:12

A commenter doesn't agree or understand that trauma is nuanced and presents in many ways.

There is no victim here because nobody cares enough to look beyond the obvious.

I work with trauma, I understand its various manifestations. It still doesnt mean, if she does have a trauma history, that everything someone does is born out of that trauma.

She has agency and choice. She is working for a living she chooses to do that

No one needs to be distressed for her or about her, she had a tough day at work and appears to want to carry on.

Her aim for 1000 men in a day is to break the world record, currently 941 men in a day, I didnt know there was a record but there you are.

Stretchanoctave · 11/12/2024 22:20

MumOfOneAllAlone · 11/12/2024 11:45

I mean, this is defo sex work in that she's engaging in sex for her perceived 'career'

I'd say it is prostitution as well 🥺

I would save your sympathy for someone who deserves it. Nobody is forcing this woman. She’s doing it for fame.

Aduvetday · 11/12/2024 22:21

soupfiend · 11/12/2024 22:19

I work with trauma, I understand its various manifestations. It still doesnt mean, if she does have a trauma history, that everything someone does is born out of that trauma.

She has agency and choice. She is working for a living she chooses to do that

No one needs to be distressed for her or about her, she had a tough day at work and appears to want to carry on.

Her aim for 1000 men in a day is to break the world record, currently 941 men in a day, I didnt know there was a record but there you are.

Hopefully not people with SA trauma as you’d be shit at your job,

WasThatACorner · 11/12/2024 22:22

I don't know how many ways I can say this, the issue isn't this one woman. I don't want to talk about this one woman.

The issue is 36000 people have subscribed to watch this.

100 men turner's up and had sex.with her, some crossing clearly stated boundaries.

One woman was involved.

The issue is massive but we can't talk about it because nobody can focus any wider than the one woman.

ChristmasPudd1990 · 11/12/2024 22:22

She's grim. No sympathy whatsoever 🙄🤦‍♀️🤮 As are the "men" involved 🤢🤮

Aduvetday · 11/12/2024 22:23

WasThatACorner · 11/12/2024 22:22

I don't know how many ways I can say this, the issue isn't this one woman. I don't want to talk about this one woman.

The issue is 36000 people have subscribed to watch this.

100 men turner's up and had sex.with her, some crossing clearly stated boundaries.

One woman was involved.

The issue is massive but we can't talk about it because nobody can focus any wider than the one woman.

It’s because women, so called women are hell bent on slut shaming. Dig deeper, it’s often because they’ve been cheated on. I guess they have their own trauma.,

Disgusting attitudes.

WasThatACorner · 11/12/2024 22:24

soupfiend · 11/12/2024 22:19

I work with trauma, I understand its various manifestations. It still doesnt mean, if she does have a trauma history, that everything someone does is born out of that trauma.

She has agency and choice. She is working for a living she chooses to do that

No one needs to be distressed for her or about her, she had a tough day at work and appears to want to carry on.

Her aim for 1000 men in a day is to break the world record, currently 941 men in a day, I didnt know there was a record but there you are.

But you shouldn't work with people with trauma.

Just because you do doesn't mean you're good at it.

NewBootsWeather · 11/12/2024 22:24

ChristmasPudd1990 · 11/12/2024 22:22

She's grim. No sympathy whatsoever 🙄🤦‍♀️🤮 As are the "men" involved 🤢🤮

Edited

I'm sick of arguing with some posters but I agree with you as I go to bed. Grim.

Everlygreen · 11/12/2024 22:25

SmokeyToo · 11/12/2024 10:18

Stupid is as stupid does. Zero sympathy.

I agree. She didn't do it with a gun to her head. There would be no 100 men if there wasn't this woman to provide this.

motheroflittledragon · 11/12/2024 22:27

i find it hard to find much sympathy to be honest seeing as she was not some willing participant. these 100 men and viewers hardly drugged her up and carried her off somewhere to have sex. she is more then willing to cross over boundaries for views, clicks and money.

thesilvermoon · 11/12/2024 22:28

soupfiend · 11/12/2024 22:19

I work with trauma, I understand its various manifestations. It still doesnt mean, if she does have a trauma history, that everything someone does is born out of that trauma.

She has agency and choice. She is working for a living she chooses to do that

No one needs to be distressed for her or about her, she had a tough day at work and appears to want to carry on.

Her aim for 1000 men in a day is to break the world record, currently 941 men in a day, I didnt know there was a record but there you are.

Her aim for 1000 men in a day is to break the world record

Well, that's okay then, if it's for a world record. (I did know this.)

From your previous post you blithely referred to this recent 100 men goal as "a day's work"...

A day's work... Far out.

You should not be around people with trauma, you do not understand its various manifestations.

Bbq1 · 11/12/2024 22:36

WasThatACorner · 11/12/2024 21:59

You don't have to be kind to anyone.

Try treating a human as a human.

If that doesn't work for you, I'd be very interested in what went wrong in your life.

Oh, okay. Do you want to tell me how well she's treating the young men she grooming? Of course I treat her as human because she is one. That's not in question but I will not reserve kindness for someone who neither appears to need or want that. She doesn't. She's happy as she is. Nothing wrong in my life, thanks, just because I refuse to talk about "being kind" to this woman doesn't mean something is wrong. I had a great childhood and have a long, happy marriage although that has nothing to do with the woman's choices.

MumOfOneAllAlone · 11/12/2024 22:37

WasThatACorner · 11/12/2024 22:22

I don't know how many ways I can say this, the issue isn't this one woman. I don't want to talk about this one woman.

The issue is 36000 people have subscribed to watch this.

100 men turner's up and had sex.with her, some crossing clearly stated boundaries.

One woman was involved.

The issue is massive but we can't talk about it because nobody can focus any wider than the one woman.

The issue is huge. I think it shows that, if they could, a not insignificant number of men would use a vulnerable woman for sex in this way.

Its been shown repeatedly through the years though, the depths that some men will go to to get their end away, and just how little they care about women's welfare, there's always some scandal

Look now at Jay z. I can guarantee there are men thinking, 'well 13 isn't that young, he's hardly a pedophile'.

When they can get away with it, a lot of people are comfortable with cruelty and causing another's suffering

OP posts:
motheroflittledragon · 11/12/2024 22:38

MumOfOneAllAlone · 11/12/2024 22:37

The issue is huge. I think it shows that, if they could, a not insignificant number of men would use a vulnerable woman for sex in this way.

Its been shown repeatedly through the years though, the depths that some men will go to to get their end away, and just how little they care about women's welfare, there's always some scandal

Look now at Jay z. I can guarantee there are men thinking, 'well 13 isn't that young, he's hardly a pedophile'.

When they can get away with it, a lot of people are comfortable with cruelty and causing another's suffering

i am sorry this is not some vulnerable young naive girl

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