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AIBU to feel completely distressed by the viral video of the aftermath of onlyfans worker Lily P 'sleeping with' 100 men?

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MumOfOneAllAlone · 11/12/2024 09:48

I've tried to word this carefully.

Lily, an onlyfans star, aged 20something I'm guessing, slept with 100 men in one go, as part of a documentary.

Following this, she's on camera crying. She says her eyes hurt as some of the men ejaculated in them, despite her saying no.

My heart is broken for this girl. Im a feminist but I've never thought of sex work as being empowering?

Surely, the empowerment of sex work has failed this poor girl? And surely the 100 men who agreed to do this are criminals???

I'm so angry. You could see in the video that Lily is realising what a mistake this was and is very traumatised.

Anyway, didn't see a thread on this so thought I'd post. My heart goes out to her, and my brain feels very angry at those who failed to protect her.

OP posts:
Manch2024 · 11/12/2024 21:23

Why is it legal though? Surely laws should protect society.

NewBootsWeather · 11/12/2024 21:25

MumOfOneAllAlone · 11/12/2024 21:16

I think i come across as caring and also experienced in the world of cruelty

No-one experiences cruelty like a vulnerable woman, except a vulnerable mother. It's a great privilege not to have experienced that.

People are targeting all sorts of hate at her, blaming her for her suffering and calling her vile and an embarrassment to women. She's sat there crying and clearly distressed. I don't think it's naive to take that seriously

I feel sorry for what you have been through.

I honestly believe she is just out for the money.

Startinganew32 · 11/12/2024 21:26

MumOfOneAllAlone · 11/12/2024 21:16

I think i come across as caring and also experienced in the world of cruelty

No-one experiences cruelty like a vulnerable woman, except a vulnerable mother. It's a great privilege not to have experienced that.

People are targeting all sorts of hate at her, blaming her for her suffering and calling her vile and an embarrassment to women. She's sat there crying and clearly distressed. I don't think it's naive to take that seriously

Lol I think vulnerable children experience cruelty more than an autonomous adult, whether or not they have given birth.

AnAlpacaForChristmasPleaseSanta · 11/12/2024 21:26

Hayley1256 · 11/12/2024 21:21

TBH I'm not sure how much I buy into her tears, she could have stopped the sex at any point. She's planning on doing it again with more men. I don't think it's fair to victims of SA or any types of abuse to put this women into the same category - victims have no choice in the matter, she does. She may have bad people around but no one will be able to help her unless she asks

This. And can people please stop calling her a young girl. A young girl is a 12 year old, this grown women is nearly double that.

valentinka31 · 11/12/2024 21:26

KenAdams · 11/12/2024 16:57

This is not sex work, this is content creation. Women forced into sex work wouldn't do this, for them it's about survival. She's trying to glamorise a something women are forced into doing.

very very good point - absolutely.

This is NOT sex work. She is not on the breadline or coerced in any way.

Part of the point of Only Fans is for non-sex workers to have fun/earn by creating content that exposes/explores them sexually.

Some just dip their toes in by only doing feet, etc. ... all the control is in the hands of the creator. There is zero pressure.

But Lily has recreated a prostitution situation where any bloke who comes through the door can have her, and she's agreed to it. She even weirdly said she felt 'so bad' because some guys were complaining she'd advertised 5 minutes and they were only getting eg 2.

Question: did the guys pay for this pleasure?

MumOfOneAllAlone · 11/12/2024 21:26

Hayley1256 · 11/12/2024 21:21

TBH I'm not sure how much I buy into her tears, she could have stopped the sex at any point. She's planning on doing it again with more men. I don't think it's fair to victims of SA or any types of abuse to put this women into the same category - victims have no choice in the matter, she does. She may have bad people around but no one will be able to help her unless she asks

I feel like, if everyone knows she will go on to regret being used in this way but her, and if everyone knows she's gonna suffer because of this but her, is she really not a victim?

The men know what they're doing is shameful, which is why they don't want to be filmed. As do her team around her

OP posts:
AnAlpacaForChristmasPleaseSanta · 11/12/2024 21:29

Nobody knows 100% what another person will go on to do/think or feel.

thesilvermoon · 11/12/2024 21:30

I think it is only a matter of time before she is ruptured, and then also only a matter of time before she finds herself doubly incontinent. What a life.

Hayley1256 · 11/12/2024 21:32

Just because people know she is going to regret it doesn't mean she is a victim, I know I'm going to regret drinking half a bottle of port when I wake up the next day but it doesn't make me a victim. I've done plenty of stuff when I was younger that I regret bit it doesn't make me a victim. She's a content creator and SHES PLANNING ON DOING IT AGAIN WITH MORE MEN so how much does she really regret it? The men are there because she's invited them to be, I think all of it is shameful but she's using them for content just as much as they are using her. The term victim should be saved for people that have no choice in the matter

soupfiend · 11/12/2024 21:33

MumOfOneAllAlone · 11/12/2024 20:33

Women can do as they please, it doesn't bother me what they do.

I've also been a bit free the nipple, it's just sex, sex is empowering. But I think it's gone too far and I think this young girl has realised that it's not really empowering to be used by all those disgusting men

The fact that she was left in tears, surrounded only by those profiting from her means that for me she's a victim

I think she has used them hasnt she? Its her work, her income

Im often in tears after a day at work, emotionally and physicaly drained.

Foxlover46 · 11/12/2024 21:33

@WasThatACorner ah thank you , no I can see why it came across that way when I read it back

Coconutter24 · 11/12/2024 21:33

Yes YABU to feel distressed over this, she put herself in this position willingly and plans to do it again but this time with 1000 men

"Ideally, we’ll do it in a big warehouse with two doors. I’m hoping a couple of seconds each at most - and on their way!"

That is what she said about the 1000 men so no sympathy here for her, a few tears which weren’t even because she was upset some of them were because she was worried she didn’t give them a good enough time with only having 2 minutes and she said she felt guilt some of them didn’t finish!!

n3f5 · 11/12/2024 21:34

thesilvermoon · 11/12/2024 21:30

I think it is only a matter of time before she is ruptured, and then also only a matter of time before she finds herself doubly incontinent. What a life.

Jesus that's a stretch

TheyDidntBurnWitchesTheyBurntWomen · 11/12/2024 21:36

I think the question is why did she choose this? Because we live in a porn addled society that has brainwashed a lot of women into belonging sex work is empowering. A significant proportion of her generation live for likes and subscribers they see those numbers as equivalent to their worth as a person. So believing these things how can she turn around and say that was stupid it was traumatic and sex work isn't positive. She's built her whole self around this and if she back pédalas all she is famous for and values dries up.

She said no cum on her Face. That is sexual assault. It angers me reading so many women victim blaming here. How is saying she asked for this any different to saying a different victim deserves it for the clothes they wore or an abused woman deserves it because she should have left at the first red flag?? Shame on you people.

Yes she made a stupid choice. So do so many women who then pay the price for those choices. But as others are pointing out what of the men? Who are the people committing these crimes, paying for only fans gaslighting women I to thinking it's all good? Majority is men

WasThatACorner · 11/12/2024 21:36

Startinganew32 · 11/12/2024 21:06

They’re her “fans” and like the entertainment they pay for I presume. I think she’s gross and she chose to do this but I also think that she can do this if she wants to so I’m not vilifying her as such. She is very rich as a result of what she does.

You have said "she" 6 times.

There was 1 woman.

100 men.

36000 spectators.

You're not "vilifying her as such"??? Do you know people in the world? Have any of them made poor decisions?

WasThatACorner · 11/12/2024 21:36

n3f5 · 11/12/2024 21:34

Jesus that's a stretch

No. It's a very likely tear.

thesilvermoon · 11/12/2024 21:36

n3f5 · 11/12/2024 21:34

Jesus that's a stretch

1000 men in 24 hours - what could possibly go wrong. The human body is not meant for this sort of thing.

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NewBootsWeather · 11/12/2024 21:40

thesilvermoon · 11/12/2024 21:36

1000 men in 24 hours - what could possibly go wrong. The human body is not meant for this sort of thing.

She will probably die. She's a twat.

WasThatACorner · 11/12/2024 21:41

Startinganew32 · 11/12/2024 21:26

Lol I think vulnerable children experience cruelty more than an autonomous adult, whether or not they have given birth.

You lost me at "lol".

Startinganew32 · 11/12/2024 21:42

WasThatACorner · 11/12/2024 21:36

You have said "she" 6 times.

There was 1 woman.

100 men.

36000 spectators.

You're not "vilifying her as such"??? Do you know people in the world? Have any of them made poor decisions?

Well yeah but I’m not saying that she/LILY shouldn’t be allowed to do it. I’m just saying she doesn’t seem traumatised, she’s making a load of money and she’s intent on carrying on with her gross project. The OP is on about locking her up for her own good which is very patronising and acting like she’s some poor damsel in distress. She doesn’t see herself as a victim, why should we? We’d never give the slightest sympathy to a young man filming himself shagging countless women would we?
Also the thread is about the content creator, ie the woman. I don’t know why you keep going on about the 36,000 followers.

WasThatACorner · 11/12/2024 21:42

NewBootsWeather · 11/12/2024 21:40

She will probably die. She's a twat.

And it's me who isn't engaging in the conversation.

Please dont respond. You are abhorrent.

NewBootsWeather · 11/12/2024 21:43

MumOfOneAllAlone · 11/12/2024 21:26

I feel like, if everyone knows she will go on to regret being used in this way but her, and if everyone knows she's gonna suffer because of this but her, is she really not a victim?

The men know what they're doing is shameful, which is why they don't want to be filmed. As do her team around her

I feel sad that you are defending her.

You must have some serious issues.

I hope you don't have Daughters or Sons.

Startinganew32 · 11/12/2024 21:43

I'm imagining she's not being kind to the young males she enjoys grooming and then abusing?

Or the girlfriend of some guy who won the prize of having sex with Lily and who was made to wait in the next room while they did it. She actively wants men to cheat on their partners with her.

SocksAndTheCity · 11/12/2024 21:44

valentinka31 · 11/12/2024 21:26

very very good point - absolutely.

This is NOT sex work. She is not on the breadline or coerced in any way.

Part of the point of Only Fans is for non-sex workers to have fun/earn by creating content that exposes/explores them sexually.

Some just dip their toes in by only doing feet, etc. ... all the control is in the hands of the creator. There is zero pressure.

But Lily has recreated a prostitution situation where any bloke who comes through the door can have her, and she's agreed to it. She even weirdly said she felt 'so bad' because some guys were complaining she'd advertised 5 minutes and they were only getting eg 2.

Question: did the guys pay for this pleasure?

Of course it's sex work. Sex work is work within the sex industry; how much money somebody has is nothing to do with it, and coercion is a separate issue (and illegal).

Stripping is sex work, prostitution is sex work, performing in porn is sex work, webcamming is sex work, working on a phone sex line is sex work - the whole point of the term is provide an umbrella for a range of related jobs.

It's also the term that many sex workers use to refer to themselves which I assume is why it irritates the people who hate it so much, since the last people ever to be asked about their views are the sex workers who are happily (and thus inconveniently) just getting on with being sex workers.

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