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To be disgusted by the Deafening Silence of Celebrities in the wake of Diddy allegations?

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notaurewhatusername · 29/09/2024 21:01

I can't be the only one who's deeply troubled by the silence from certain A-list celebrities following the recent allegations against Sean Combs aka Diddy. It's been weeks since the news broke, and the lack of response from some of his closest associates in the industry is, quite frankly, disturbing.

Let's talk about Jay-Z and Beyoncé, for instance. These two have been thick as thieves with him for years. Countless collaborations, public appearances, and even vacations together. And now? Radio silence. Not even a peep about condemning the alleged actions or distancing themselves from him. It's baffling.

Ashton Kutcher is another one who's keeping silent. Given his vocal stance against human trafficking and exploitation, you'd think he'd be the first to speak up. But nope, nothing.

Now, I want to tread carefully when it comes to Usher and Justin Bieber. There's been speculation about their own experiences, and if they were indeed victims themselves, I absolutely respect their right to process this privately. No one should be forced to relive trauma or speak out if they're not ready.

But for those who weren't victimised? Their silence is deafening. How hard is it to release a statement saying, "I don't condone these actions" or "I had no knowledge of these alleged crimes"? Anything would be better than this awkward void.

I'm honestly shocked that there hasn't been more public backlash against these silent celebrities. In an era where "cancel culture" can be triggered by a misplaced tweet, how are they getting a free pass? Having your longtime friend and associate arrested on such serious charges, and you can't even muster up a word of condemnation? It's beyond disappointing.

What do you all think? Am I being too harsh, or is this silence truly inexcusable? Should we, as consumers and fans, be demanding more accountability from these public figures?

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Tellysavelas · 01/10/2024 10:08

SonicTheHodgeheg · 01/10/2024 09:06

He was named in a lawsuit as someone who has attended a Diddy party to make Diddy look like a legitimate person. No allegation that he did anything wrong at the party though.

No, he was mentioned once as a celebrity associate, because Diddy performed at the event to remember Diana. It doesn’t say he attended a party. From the Independent:

There is no suggestion of any wrongdoing by the prince, and his name is only mentioned once in the documents as an example of a well-known celebrity associate of Combs.

Tellysavelas · 01/10/2024 10:09

Pussycat22 · 01/10/2024 09:45

Demonhunter, spot on , jaded tastes and ennui lead to seeking more and more depraved outlets.

I think you are skating close to defamation.

BrigadierEtienneGerard · 01/10/2024 10:16

Had to google the whole thing. As a poster said above, to much of the UK it's simply not even a newsworthy item, let alone an issue.

Demonhunter · 01/10/2024 11:09

Tellysavelas · 01/10/2024 10:09

I think you are skating close to defamation.

It's only defamation if it's not true, and if you specifically name a person in relation to the statement. Considering how hard Katt Williams, Jaguar Wright, Dave Chappelle and the West Coast lot have gone at this and actually named names, if there was any defamation happening it would have happened by now.

Tellysavelas · 01/10/2024 11:31

Demonhunter · 01/10/2024 11:09

It's only defamation if it's not true, and if you specifically name a person in relation to the statement. Considering how hard Katt Williams, Jaguar Wright, Dave Chappelle and the West Coast lot have gone at this and actually named names, if there was any defamation happening it would have happened by now.

Harry and William were seen at an event where Diddy performed at the Princess Diana Memorial Concert at Wembley Arena. There is no suggestion that he ever attended a Diddy party.

If you’re saying Harry attended a Diddy party and has ‘jaded tastes and ennui lead to seeking more and more depraved outlets’ then you’re skating close to defamation.

newnamethanks · 01/10/2024 11:47

I'm an old woman with zero interest in zleb culture but even I know this guy is dubious and has been considered to be so for a very long time so who's surprised? As for zleb mates, I expect self interest rules. It usually does.

Demonhunter · 01/10/2024 11:58

Tellysavelas · 01/10/2024 11:31

Harry and William were seen at an event where Diddy performed at the Princess Diana Memorial Concert at Wembley Arena. There is no suggestion that he ever attended a Diddy party.

If you’re saying Harry attended a Diddy party and has ‘jaded tastes and ennui lead to seeking more and more depraved outlets’ then you’re skating close to defamation.

What you talking about, PP was replying to me and I never said Harry was there.

Tellysavelas · 01/10/2024 12:15

Demonhunter · 01/10/2024 11:58

What you talking about, PP was replying to me and I never said Harry was there.

Sonic said:

[Harry] was named in a lawsuit as someone who has attended a Diddy party to make Diddy look like a legitimate person. No allegation that he did anything wrong at the party though.

You replied to Sonic:

Allegedly, some people were told to get out of there by 1am if they attended, because after then, things got dark.

Demonhunter · 01/10/2024 12:33

Tellysavelas · 01/10/2024 12:15

Sonic said:

[Harry] was named in a lawsuit as someone who has attended a Diddy party to make Diddy look like a legitimate person. No allegation that he did anything wrong at the party though.

You replied to Sonic:

Allegedly, some people were told to get out of there by 1am if they attended, because after then, things got dark.

Edited

That wasn't what she was replying to. Try again.

Tellysavelas · 01/10/2024 12:38

Demonhunter · 01/10/2024 12:33

That wasn't what she was replying to. Try again.

No, you replied to her. Read your own posts.

Demonhunter · 01/10/2024 12:38

Tellysavelas · 01/10/2024 12:15

Sonic said:

[Harry] was named in a lawsuit as someone who has attended a Diddy party to make Diddy look like a legitimate person. No allegation that he did anything wrong at the party though.

You replied to Sonic:

Allegedly, some people were told to get out of there by 1am if they attended, because after then, things got dark.

Edited

This world is so seriously fucked up now. It makes me weep to think I’ve brought my poor, innocent daughter into it.
Also, wtf is up with these celebrities?! They’re all multi, multi millionaires already (100’s of millions in the bank if you’re the Carters) why would you NEED to get into trafficking etc?!

To which I replied:
Power. When you have so much money and power and can have anything you want and think you have to get more and more depraved to get any thrill. That's why there's so much hard-core, really depraved porn around, people can just become immune to what used to thrill them and have to go harder and harder. It's like brainwashing, rewires your brain. If you're sociopathic enough, this is where it ends up!

That's what Pussycat replied to, no mention of Harry, and the fact I've actively been engaging in this thread and it's clear who I'm talking about.

You carry on making your stories up though.

Tellysavelas · 01/10/2024 12:40

Demonhunter · 01/10/2024 12:38

This world is so seriously fucked up now. It makes me weep to think I’ve brought my poor, innocent daughter into it.
Also, wtf is up with these celebrities?! They’re all multi, multi millionaires already (100’s of millions in the bank if you’re the Carters) why would you NEED to get into trafficking etc?!

To which I replied:
Power. When you have so much money and power and can have anything you want and think you have to get more and more depraved to get any thrill. That's why there's so much hard-core, really depraved porn around, people can just become immune to what used to thrill them and have to go harder and harder. It's like brainwashing, rewires your brain. If you're sociopathic enough, this is where it ends up!

That's what Pussycat replied to, no mention of Harry, and the fact I've actively been engaging in this thread and it's clear who I'm talking about.

You carry on making your stories up though.

Here’s the exchange.

To be disgusted by the Deafening Silence of Celebrities in the wake of Diddy allegations?
Demonhunter · 01/10/2024 12:43

Tellysavelas · 01/10/2024 12:40

Here’s the exchange.

Actually here it is:

As I said, she was replying to my depravity comment clearly and you mentioned defamation.

To be disgusted by the Deafening Silence of Celebrities in the wake of Diddy allegations?
Tellysavelas · 01/10/2024 12:48

Demonhunter · 01/10/2024 12:43

Actually here it is:

As I said, she was replying to my depravity comment clearly and you mentioned defamation.

I’m referring to the exchange I pasted on this instance. Care to explain that one?

Demonhunter · 01/10/2024 13:00

Tellysavelas · 01/10/2024 12:48

I’m referring to the exchange I pasted on this instance. Care to explain that one?

Hahaha can't admit you were wrong so change the exchange when it's there to see 🤣 I've posted the exchange you piped up on so no, that wasn't the exchange. You said the exchange between me and Pussycat was defamation and Harry wasn't mentioned. Care to admit you just made an incorrect assumption in an exchange you weren't part of?

And the one you have decided to change it to, nothing defamatory about that. They said he was allegedly at a party and I said that some people were told to leave at a certain time, so they weren't involved in the dark stuff. So even if it was true he was there, nothing at all suggests he's involved in anything depraved.

Tellysavelas · 01/10/2024 13:06

Demonhunter · 01/10/2024 13:00

Hahaha can't admit you were wrong so change the exchange when it's there to see 🤣 I've posted the exchange you piped up on so no, that wasn't the exchange. You said the exchange between me and Pussycat was defamation and Harry wasn't mentioned. Care to admit you just made an incorrect assumption in an exchange you weren't part of?

And the one you have decided to change it to, nothing defamatory about that. They said he was allegedly at a party and I said that some people were told to leave at a certain time, so they weren't involved in the dark stuff. So even if it was true he was there, nothing at all suggests he's involved in anything depraved.

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You said that you never said he was at the party. But your response to Sonic shows you think he was.

And re your exchange with Pussycat, I did say ‘IF you’re saying’, because it wasn’t clear if you were referring back to your exchange with Sonic as well.

Demonhunter · 01/10/2024 13:10

Tellysavelas · 01/10/2024 13:06

You said that you never said he was at the party. But your response to Sonic shows you think he was.

And re your exchange with Pussycat, I did say ‘IF you’re saying’, because it wasn’t clear if you were referring back to your exchange with Sonic as well.

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Pussycat mentioned my name talking about my comment on depravity so yes you made an assumption and I don't have to make things clear to you when you weren't part of that exchange.

I didn't say he was, where did I say Harry was at a party, I said PEOPLE were told to leave before a certain time, in defence of the fact Harry's being named as alleged to be have been to a party.

I love how you were totally wrong in what you said and trying to now twist it. Nice skills.

I've had a few exchanges on here so why would you only assume that 1 random person was involved in my exchange with someone else? You read one comment from me and made assumptions not realising I've made several and that people are referring to others.

Tellysavelas · 01/10/2024 13:12

Demonhunter · 01/10/2024 13:10

Pussycat mentioned my name talking about my comment on depravity so yes you made an assumption and I don't have to make things clear to you when you weren't part of that exchange.

I didn't say he was, where did I say Harry was at a party, I said PEOPLE were told to leave before a certain time, in defence of the fact Harry's being named as alleged to be have been to a party.

I love how you were totally wrong in what you said and trying to now twist it. Nice skills.

I've had a few exchanges on here so why would you only assume that 1 random person was involved in my exchange with someone else? You read one comment from me and made assumptions not realising I've made several and that people are referring to others.

Edited

I didn't say he was, where did I say Harry was at a party, I said PEOPLE were told to leave before a certain time, in defence of the fact Harry's being named as alleged to be have been to a party.

Yep, but you said it in response to Sonic’s post saying Harry was at the party. Can you really not see that?

Anyway, this is boring, let’s just leave it. You may have the last word.

Demonhunter · 01/10/2024 13:16

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Demonhunter · 01/10/2024 13:30

Puttheneedleontherackets · 30/09/2024 21:00

What’s been said about Leo? I always feel these young girls he dates could be a cover up…is he gay?

Well, that's the alleged story yes, I don't think anyone kind of confirms for sure it's true, it's just alleged. DPs screenwriter friend moved out of LA and won't go to any parties of any celebs, apparently that's pretty common for the majority of those behind the scenes, he says being sucked into that world holds no appeal for the average industry worker vs the execs and stars.

His actor friend is really normal too, bit manic and flaky but normal, he's low level famous, no one huge and has been in the industry since he was a child and thinks that whole scene is unappealing, also has a few suspicions about a few directors and their creepiness but again, without full proof, wouldn't make claims. He's had good influences in the industry from being young too.

ZoeCM · 01/10/2024 14:37

The link I’ve found most shocking is Will Smith being with him, although I did see something a year ago with a bodyguard coming out to say he walked in on WS with another man.

There have been rumours about Will Smith's sexuality dating back to the 00s, possibly earlier.

HopeMumsnet · 01/10/2024 15:47

Hi there,
We think it's about time that the derailing spat here was brought to a close so that posters can get back to the subject of the thread.

Puttheneedleontherackets · 01/10/2024 17:12

I think I can kind of see why people might think Will is…

SonicTheHodgeheg · 01/10/2024 17:25

It was rumoured that he was in an open marriage.

Giraffel · 01/10/2024 17:37

Jay-z doesn't want this particular spotlight on him. Foxy was what, 14?

50 has his own issues too

It was interesting how fast Ryan Leslie got his tiny desk. I don't know if it's too late for him now but I wish him luck in getting his career back.

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