To be disgusted by the Deafening Silence of Celebrities in the wake of Diddy allegations?

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I can't be the only one who's deeply troubled by the silence from certain A-list celebrities following the recent allegations against Sean Combs aka Diddy. It's been weeks since the news broke, and the lack of response from some of his closest associates in the industry is, quite frankly, disturbing.

Let's talk about Jay-Z and Beyoncé, for instance. These two have been thick as thieves with him for years. Countless collaborations, public appearances, and even vacations together. And now? Radio silence. Not even a peep about condemning the alleged actions or distancing themselves from him. It's baffling.

Ashton Kutcher is another one who's keeping silent. Given his vocal stance against human trafficking and exploitation, you'd think he'd be the first to speak up. But nope, nothing.

Now, I want to tread carefully when it comes to Usher and Justin Bieber. There's been speculation about their own experiences, and if they were indeed victims themselves, I absolutely respect their right to process this privately. No one should be forced to relive trauma or speak out if they're not ready.

But for those who weren't victimised? Their silence is deafening. How hard is it to release a statement saying, "I don't condone these actions" or "I had no knowledge of these alleged crimes"? Anything would be better than this awkward void.

I'm honestly shocked that there hasn't been more public backlash against these silent celebrities. In an era where "cancel culture" can be triggered by a misplaced tweet, how are they getting a free pass? Having your longtime friend and associate arrested on such serious charges, and you can't even muster up a word of condemnation? It's beyond disappointing.

What do you all think? Am I being too harsh, or is this silence truly inexcusable? Should we, as consumers and fans, be demanding more accountability from these public figures?

When people are actually arrested and charged then I’ll take notice. Anyone can scream names out. At the moment I’m just hearing all kinds of names on various sites with people becoming increasingly excited. It’s pretty shitty.

Being photographed at a party doesn’t make you a criminal. If that was the case many of us would be in jail today. I’ve been to big parties where I wasn’t close to the host and eveyone looked to be having a good time but how would I have known if any had been forced there against their will by the host and were looking happy because they had to through fear?

Some of us will continue to believe the victims and those in the know, not the perps trying to cover their tracks.

He's been dissing Diddy since 1997 on his lyrics. He's never trusted him, now people know why.

lol this verse from I need a girl ( Big Diddy Hit) has a bit more meaning )
some seriously funny videos on you tube about it

At first we were friends then became lovers
You was more than my girl, we was like brothers😂😂
All night we would play fight under covers

Is this an actual joke?

you don’t look like the bigger person stating that your waiting for the law to deal with this before you cast judgement.

you look like a fool who will believe anything- people with in the law are also involved.

you almost sound like you do not believe these victims until proven guilty. I hope that if something sinister ever happened to you you would be believed straight away.

I for one will get bloody excited that these vile creatures are FINALLY being held accountable. And I for one would HAPPILY lead a witch hunt to rid the world of these paedophiles.

As mentioned several times, for over 20 years people have been shouting from the roof tops about diddy and his parties- no one is buying your ‘if they are there they could think it’s an innocent party’ people knew what these parties were.

no one is talking about consensual sex,
orgies, swinging. No one. We are talking about Sex trafficking,
rape.
abuse of kids

get your head out the clouds.

After spending some time watching various youtube videos where this person says that, and that person says this, its true that various rappers/comedians over the years have been talking about Diddy, but when you listen to what they're saying, its mainly to laugh about/joke about him being gay

There are some like Eminem (and a few others) who called him a rapist yes, but very very few were criticising him for apparent exploitation or abuse of children, its mainly to make jokes about being gay.

Yep. They just love the excitement, regardless of any facts, or lack of.

It's so transparent when they're even encouraging the gullible to go on YouTube and look for stuff by various wacko conspiracy theorists and other lunatics. It's all, "if you listen to the lyrics in XYZ and take the 3rd word of every 2nd line it says xxxx is involved..."

It's little different to the awfully sad case of Nicola Bulley, where for so many the need to gossip and whip up a frenzy took precedence over simple facts.

And there's never a busier thread on MN than one where people can fill in gaps in a news story with their imaginations, instead of waiting for actual evidence and actual criminal investigations to take place.

‘Encouraging the gullible’
so people looking for information are gullible. I’d say they are making the best choices using a variety of sources to then form their own opinions. Whether they agree or not it’s great that more people are informing themselves.

only 1 person here sounds gullible.

Did you follow the Epstein case? in which case you’d know that many men were involved in the abuse and cover up of trafficked young women but never held accountable, never mind publicly named in court documents because money bought the silence of victims and help to hide what what really happened.

I agree that It is fact that not everyone who attended his parties did anything illegal and many helped raise Diddy’s profile by being photographed in attendance. Nobody is suggesting that this group of people who saw legal stuff like nudity or open drug taking have done anything wrong. The freak offs happened after the respectable attendees left.

Has there been confirmation of what the baby oil bottles were laced with ? Is it something like GHB to stop victims getting away ?

It's nothing like the Nicola Bulley case at all! Talk about grasping at straws. We get it, you're probably a fan of people who have been named!

Like @sonicthehodgeheg says, most big celebs will have been at one of his parties at some point, it's not those that are being named, it's the after party "freak offs" although some of the victims are angry that some did see them there before they left and never questioned why, however they aren't named as having involvement.

It's not just the freak offs either, when one of the most dangerous celebs is finally being held accountable, it's the time for all the others connected to Diddy to be held accountable for their shady business that they've been getting away with.

The baby oil I don't know, not sure that has been confirmed yet, but it's suspected that ket was used in drinks, due to toxicology reports from some of the victims who had to go to ER when they woke up and found they'd been intimately injured.

Taking a bunch of random people on YouTube, and assuming everything they saw is accurate, is gullible.

You have no way of knowing if their information is accurate.

A person saying something on TikTok isn't "information" or "evidence".

The same people who might put out some accurate information could also be running their mouths off talking about people who weren't involved. Or making up crazy scenarios to get YouTube clicks. Or exaggerating. Talk is not evidence.

It's totally possible to believe this stuff was an open secret and lots of people implicated, without believing that just because some person mentions a name there was some kind of Prince Harry/Martha Stewert/Denzel Washington orgy involving prostitutes and children, and it's irresponsible to spread that stuff without more than a random mention.

Denzel's was named in an affidavit from a woman who has been openly trying to pursue a legal case for years. So you can't include him in your random names.
Anyone who is naming someone who was merely photographed at a party is just grasping, as has been said, most big celebs will have been at the official party at some point, but some of the names stated publicly, that isn't the case and it runs a lot deeper than diddy and the freak offs.

If people haven't been following all of this for years, why are they piping up, getting their backs up now about action being taken.

There's a few names of Hollywood people I've been told, not online, but by someone over there, that they're highly suspicious of being involved in this kind of stuff. No one, however, is publicly naming them anywhere as it's only suspicion, without solid proof. When people in the public eye are actually at the point of naming someone for being shady, it's because they have evidence of it.

No one is saying it was evidence. 120+ people have come forward and spoke about their experiences.
a few posters have asked myself and several others where we have seen the info, so we have pointed it out.

if you read back through my posts not once had any of it been referred to as factual or evidence- I believe it to be true. That is my opinion.

you sound ridiculous

I have read that the baby oil was to cover the children so that they couldn’t easily escape. It was a tiled room apparently. Heart breaking if true

Well said

@Outnumberedmummy2022 But where did you read/see that as that’s a very strong allegation and completely horrific

Women are often involved in sex trafficking and sex abuse cases precisely because they are "safer". A really common pattern is maybe 3 men and a woman getting arrested for child SA. Women can be involved in providing their own kids (awful) or being the "safe" chaperone. I am sure some people would be quite wary of being invited to a party of 10 men, even if they were people you admired, but being invited by a woman, or if you know the wife was going to be there, appears to change the dynamic.
Womensignalto other women "this man is safe" or "don't trust this guy" all the time
That's not to say Beyonce was involved, we know nothing of the case. But if this was racketeering expect women to be charged as well if it goes bigger (maybe wives, PAs etc). Women are far less likely to be motivated by sexual motives, but there are other reasons money, power, wanting to please the man they love (e.. Ghislaine Maxwell). Men can also be motivated by this of course but also they are often motivated by sex.

I think the Bieber thing is speculation that he may have been abused. But actually it's also possible that Diddy used the underage popstar as a lure. There were masses of, also underage, girls quite happy to throw themselves at Bieber (in the way underage girls do. They are children). It's really easy for the person running Biebers career to take advantage of that. (or both those things actually). Either way expecting him to make a statement seems really unfair.

Oh, and also sometimes women and "respectable" people are used to create a safe image or normalise abuse without even realising it. Think about someone whose behaviour or jokes gradually start to push boundaries of what people would normally find acceptable but it's all fine because that's what he's like (and they don't go too far). Then, later, when they do it gives the impression everyone else is fine with it, this is normal, why are you making a fuss. No one quite knows exactly what everyone else knows and abusers hide in the ambiguity.

One of my favourites aswell!

Yes it it your right. Log onto x,
tik tok, YouTube type in ‘diddy baby oil so victims couldn’t escape’ 100s of articles come up

@Demonhunter @SonicTheHodgeheg @biscuitandcake
do you guys remember this?

they have been telling us for years @Puttheneedleontherackets

Golden globes speech

@Whenwillitgetwarm
Victim
this lady is a victim. If you would like to listen to her experience the link is there.

this should lead you to several more.

Funnily enough a reaction to it popped up in my recommended the other day and reminded me of it haha. A lot of the faces were telling, although I do like how Scorsese and Leo at least took the jokes in good fun.