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Totally disgusted by those rioting in Southport

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Bex5490 · 30/07/2024 22:18

Southport has experienced the most unbelievable tragedy.

Their emergency services had to respond to probably the most traumatic calls they’ve ever had, yet tonight they are being attacked by thugs?

The latest is that these people are destroying people’s homes to get bricks with which to throw at the police.

I am heartbroken, bewildered and disgusted. How dare they destroy the homes of that grieving town.

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Livelovebehappy · 31/07/2024 14:39

Wordysmith · 31/07/2024 13:53

Re making Cornwall more multi-cultural , my take on that is some multi cultural areas are great - over time you do see less racism as they become more multi-cultural. There were areas in London that used to be known as no go areas for POC in the 80s/90s or at least go at your own risk that have become better as multi-culturalism has thrived. From what I understand a lot of white racists actually moved out from those areas.

However, on the other hand one of the loveliest towns I’ve ever lived in was in the north of Scotland. It had so few POC but everyone was SO nice and I know a colleagues husband was a black American and he was absolutely loving it since it was such a change from his native Texas in terms of how people treated him despite there being far less black people there than in Texas.

Thing is no go areas go both ways. I live in a very Muslim dominated area where there are several no-go areas. I cant risk my son walking anywhere outside our own street as there are many attacks on white oeople. It's pretty scarey. We have to drive him everywhere. My point being by diluting white people, the situation can then flip.

pandasorous · 31/07/2024 14:41

Livelovebehappy · 31/07/2024 14:39

Thing is no go areas go both ways. I live in a very Muslim dominated area where there are several no-go areas. I cant risk my son walking anywhere outside our own street as there are many attacks on white oeople. It's pretty scarey. We have to drive him everywhere. My point being by diluting white people, the situation can then flip.

which area is this then?

justasking111 · 31/07/2024 14:41

It's so difficult we live in a cul de sac of ten. Nine white Welsh families. Then a mixed race Asian family moved in at first everything seemed fine, but slowly we realised our Welsh children aren't welcome to play in the cul de sac.

Five of us have dogs and cats which are considered disgusting 💩 on four legs

. A couple of properties have come up for sale at prices that they think ridiculous, they'd have bought if they'd been cheaper.

Their oldest went to the local secondary and hasn't excelled like his cousins elsewhere. So he's in trouble. They're very critical of our Welsh schools which ain't perfect I'll admit.

My grandchildren play with them at school but are shunned by them when they visits us. Very confusing for a six year old. They're lovely kids but not allowed to birthday parties or play dates ever.

They are just so angry about everything these days. We're all walking on eggs here.

But honestly we haven't done anything.

Userjfxkgxkgxkgxkgx · 31/07/2024 14:42

Southport has a small, mainly Bengali Muslim population, most of whom live around the town centre. The boy’s identity is being shared already, you can’t keep it secret. He isn’t from that community

Waffle78 · 31/07/2024 14:43

MrsPinkFlower · 31/07/2024 08:54

All this immigration talk is a moot point. The rioters don’t care about the dead children. They don’t care about the grieving families/ friends/ neighbours. They don’t care about immigration. They only care about the excitement they experience from being part of a violent mob. They’re racists who want an excuse to be violent to innocent strangers.

Exactly this someone tried to tell me to ignore the mainstream media. That he's an immigrant came on a boat and older than 17 blah blah. Now it's come out it was fake and the name was made up and come from a Russian bot. Hopefully they will all feel like absolute fuckin idiots and stfu.

justasking111 · 31/07/2024 14:44

Userjfxkgxkgxkgxkgx · 31/07/2024 14:42

Southport has a small, mainly Bengali Muslim population, most of whom live around the town centre. The boy’s identity is being shared already, you can’t keep it secret. He isn’t from that community

I said this yesterday. Rwandans are 94% Christian sigh

orchiddottyback · 31/07/2024 14:45

pandasorous · 31/07/2024 14:41

which area is this then?

Plenty Blackburn, Nelson, Dewsbury, Batley, Bradford to name only a few. But again some one will come saying the opposite. But then again this is MN and full of people who make an excuse for anything to push their left wing agenda.

*footnote: for the MN loons who quote me I don't read your replies haha.

Piggywaspushed · 31/07/2024 14:45

orchiddottyback · 31/07/2024 14:37

I suggest you look up photos of the person carrying the flick knife and balaclava being arrested, he certainly was not right wing. 🙄

How do you know by looking??

TonTonMacoute · 31/07/2024 14:45

We have had two major riots in as many weeks, this one and Harehills.

Last year we had Hindu /Muslim riots in Leicester, and a few month ago riots broke between differing groups of Eritreans and a similar riot between different factions of Bangladeshis earlier this month.

None of these should have happened and I suspect are very much down to the lack of proper policing at the moment, due to lack of funding and proper support for officers who have to put themselves on the front line. The French have the CRS who specialise in dealing with riots, and I'm not sure we want that here.

All rioters should be treated the same. The EDL are a bunch of repellent morons but singling them out as a unique problem is not the answer either, if anything it will garner them even more support.

justasking111 · 31/07/2024 14:46

Livelovebehappy · 31/07/2024 14:39

Thing is no go areas go both ways. I live in a very Muslim dominated area where there are several no-go areas. I cant risk my son walking anywhere outside our own street as there are many attacks on white oeople. It's pretty scarey. We have to drive him everywhere. My point being by diluting white people, the situation can then flip.

A friend has family in Bradford, this sounds depressingly familiar.

SallyWD · 31/07/2024 14:46

justasking111 · 31/07/2024 14:41

It's so difficult we live in a cul de sac of ten. Nine white Welsh families. Then a mixed race Asian family moved in at first everything seemed fine, but slowly we realised our Welsh children aren't welcome to play in the cul de sac.

Five of us have dogs and cats which are considered disgusting 💩 on four legs

. A couple of properties have come up for sale at prices that they think ridiculous, they'd have bought if they'd been cheaper.

Their oldest went to the local secondary and hasn't excelled like his cousins elsewhere. So he's in trouble. They're very critical of our Welsh schools which ain't perfect I'll admit.

My grandchildren play with them at school but are shunned by them when they visits us. Very confusing for a six year old. They're lovely kids but not allowed to birthday parties or play dates ever.

They are just so angry about everything these days. We're all walking on eggs here.

But honestly we haven't done anything.

I just find accounts like this incredible. 80% of my children's friends are from ethnic minorities and we've never experienced anything like this. We have sleepovers and play dates with our Muslim friends, birthday parties. They have pets too!
I wouldn't say your experience pf Asian neighbours is typical.

orchiddottyback · 31/07/2024 14:47

Piggywaspushed · 31/07/2024 14:45

How do you know by looking??

Well you would not have to try hard to see he is not a right wing thug. If you want to pretend not to know, then no point in talking to you, good day.

Livelovebehappy · 31/07/2024 14:47

pandasorous · 31/07/2024 14:41

which area is this then?

Bradford. West Yorkshire.

orchiddottyback · 31/07/2024 14:48

Livelovebehappy · 31/07/2024 14:47

Bradford. West Yorkshire.

Called it ☝

Piggywaspushed · 31/07/2024 14:48

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Tommy Robinson vocally insults childless women, as does Andrew Tate.

Twistybranch · 31/07/2024 14:49

Denmark are making huge pushes to integrate immigrants. The plans are controversial but it will be interesting to see if it results in more cohesive relations

Cattenberg · 31/07/2024 14:50

ErrolTheDragon · 31/07/2024 14:33

Exactly. Lack of information is fuelling the fire.

No. Disinformation, speculation and people not having the grace and sense to wait for the police to do their investigation is what's fuelling the fire.

The information we have at this point is as it should be.

Agreed. Attacking a mosque was pathetic. Attacking the police force who are investigating this crime was also pathetic.

samarrange · 31/07/2024 14:50

Waffle78 · 31/07/2024 14:43

Exactly this someone tried to tell me to ignore the mainstream media. That he's an immigrant came on a boat and older than 17 blah blah. Now it's come out it was fake and the name was made up and come from a Russian bot. Hopefully they will all feel like absolute fuckin idiots and stfu.

Hopefully they will all feel like absolute fuckin idiots and stfu.

Good luck with that. Their logic will be "Well, he could of [sic] been a migrant off a boat, there [sic] all like that". Or "The police are hiding the truth". In conspiracy world (RW politics is closely tied to conspiracist thinking), evidence against an argument can always be turned into evidence in favour of it.

Mugcake · 31/07/2024 14:51

Yep it's disgusting. The EDL and other right wing pricks have immediately tried to capitalise on those poor little girls deaths. I've seen reports that it was committed by a Syrian refugee (false) and illegal immigrant (false) and a Muslim gang (false). The 17yr old who did it was BORN IN CARDIFF his parens are Rowandan and presumably have been here legally for decades.
Unfortunately you can fight stupid.
You'd think though given the grief and trauma those poor kids and their families are going through Tommy Robindon et al would have a tiny amount of respect. The fact that some of them have been reported as carrying weapons (including knives) is sickening given what's just happened. I hope they're all locked up. Utter scum.

Livelovebehappy · 31/07/2024 14:51

Livelovebehappy · 31/07/2024 14:47

Bradford. West Yorkshire.

We had an incident last week when a young boy was pulled into a car and beaten up badly early evening. It was reported to police but nothing done. Local MP is less than useless, and situation just being allowed to continue under the radar. Fortunately house for sale and moving miles out of the area.

FixTheBone · 31/07/2024 14:51

hamstersarse · 31/07/2024 14:22

I am amazed that people cannot understand why there were riots last night.

The judge needs to order release of details of the perpetrator - it makes everything worse when people are filling the gaps.

I'm amazed that people can't see why pandering to mobs of uneducated idiots might set a dangerous precedent.....

Sure, anytime you're really curious about who's been arrested, just go out and burn some police cars....

And there'll be a load of people who can't see why the name being released is a problem.

If they'd come out on Tuesday morning and said the name was Mohammed Islam (made up for effect) I suppose everyone would have shrugged their shoulders and gone home satisfied? Of course not, they'd be heading to the mosques, pitchforks in hand. And you wonder why there is animosity - people throwing bricks at mosques and shouting 'why do you hate Britain?' without a hint of insight or irony.,

At the end of the day, the identity of the perpetrator has absolutely nothing to do with anyone rioting or protesting, anyone at the vigil, or anyone watching on BBC news 24. It's a matter for the police, criminal prosecution service, and for the victims and families. And that's it.

TwigletsAndRadishes · 31/07/2024 14:51

orchiddottyback · 31/07/2024 14:47

Well you would not have to try hard to see he is not a right wing thug. If you want to pretend not to know, then no point in talking to you, good day.

Eh?

He appears to be an Asian thug. We can clearly see from the film footage that he isn't white. What we can't see however, is whether is he identifies as right wing, left wing, or anything else. He clearly went tooled up and ready for some bother though, whatever his politics.

CassieMaddox · 31/07/2024 14:51

Waffle78 · 31/07/2024 14:43

Exactly this someone tried to tell me to ignore the mainstream media. That he's an immigrant came on a boat and older than 17 blah blah. Now it's come out it was fake and the name was made up and come from a Russian bot. Hopefully they will all feel like absolute fuckin idiots and stfu.

Unfortunately not, they instead will just go on about how that was a reasonable misunderstanding because "you can't be openly racist discuss legitimate concerns"

orchiddottyback · 31/07/2024 14:53

Livelovebehappy · 31/07/2024 14:51

We had an incident last week when a young boy was pulled into a car and beaten up badly early evening. It was reported to police but nothing done. Local MP is less than useless, and situation just being allowed to continue under the radar. Fortunately house for sale and moving miles out of the area.

Ditto, Same here even the surround areas are becoming war zones now too.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn38n8pegypo

Funny no one talking about that either!

A freeze-frame from a video, which shows punches being thrown in a crowd at Dovedale

Dovedale: Peak District beauty spot sees mass brawl

Mobile phone footage shows sticks being waved and punches thrown at the stepping stones in Dovedale.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn38n8pegypo

AvrielFinch · 31/07/2024 14:54

My Asian Muslim neighbours come round to see my dog. It is true they keep their young children away from neighbours families who are racist.

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