Male born person wins women’s golf tournament and is now “worried about his safety” - interviewed by GMB (Title edited by MNHQ)

[HermioneKipper]

Why the hell are GMB gaslighting women with this stuff?

https://twitter.com/GMB/status/1749329378352275568

This is an enormous male-bodied person - even larger than the interviewing man!

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Men who use female spaces are the ones being 'disrespectful'.

You are deliberately turning this into something it isn't. This male born player should not have taken part in a woman's only golf tournament. It is unfair. Simple as that.

Actually no they don't.

Yes, last I saw only 20% had ‘bottom surgery’. 80% didn’t - and who can blame them, it’s very dangerous and requires lifelong care.

without being deliberately disrespectful

Theres nothing respectful about lying. Thats where we disagree

but I think the issue is that we need clear, consistent and fair guidelines and proper categories to accommodate trans women in sport.

We already have a category for transwomen. It's the mens catergory.

I'm not sure why he's worried about his safety either...he's massive (and a big cheat).

Ooops! Was that my comment "Yes he is huge", that is transphobic. It's not . It's the truth. Why on earth are women so feebly letting themselves be walked over by men that ( I promise you) do not give a shit about you? Do you really think William ( Lia) Thomas cares one bit about you, or this Hailey man or whoever. They really don't. So stop caring about them. They are big boys who can look after themselves. Gah!!! Drives me mad.

In this case one suspects "fears for safety" may have as much basis in material reality as "feelings of womanhood".

was talking about wider issues such as being forced to use men’s tollets and changing areas. Women shouldn’t be made to feel unsafe by allowing trans women in,

There is no reason why transwomen can't use the mens toilets and changing rooms. Women feel unsafe letting transwomen in because transwomen are men.

Saying "I am a woman" does not stop them being men.

We don't let men in those spaces, so why should we let a special group of men in those spaces?

I the absence of other evidence I tend to read it as 'I've received a lot of criticism and I don't like it'.

Have you noticed that when women stick up for themselves it is ok to call them names and offer threats. There seems a casual acceptance that women can be put down and silenced.

I wholeheartedly disagree. I couldn’t really care less if you or anyone thinks that I’m doing the right thing. I, however do need to know that. I’m not treated like a doormat and as evidenced on this thread I do speak my mind. I’m far from perfect - I do have a temper at times and don’t always practice what I preach. But I choose to try and do right by people. And if someone wants me to call them she or they or whatever, that in itself doesn’t hurt me so I choose to do it. If you choose not to that’s your prerogative.

Yeah they're laughing all the way to the bank, their prizes, awards, scholarship money, fame, their erections. They're definitely not concerned about women. They'll capitalise on women's empathy though.

I didn’t say women should let trans women in. I specifically said that trans women should have their own spaces but you missed that bit of the quote. It is well documented that trans women are also not safe around men and I don’t want anyone to feel unsafe.

Lots of women started where you are - tiptoeing around accurately labelling all the male sex offenders claiming to be women, nervously smiling as children in schools were deluged by groups and adults telling them their pubertal bodies were wrong and can be "fixed" with drugs and surgery.
Now we have a society where teenagers in their thousands demand these drugs and surgery to fix their flawed bodies because all the adults (especially those in schools) were too kind and didn't tell these people to get lost.
Where women in sport were threatened and bullied into silence by governing bodies into accepting men performing as women in our sports and have lost medals, team places and funding to these men.
We have court case after court case where women have been suspended from their jobs for speaking out - all being won because those insisting on people lying and "being kind" are outed as incoherent bullies who lie in court.

Being kind means being subservient. No more.

See this I don’t understand. I completely get the not wanting trans women competing against women and it is unfair. They have a competitive advantage. I can’t for the life of me understand why you would be opposed to trans women having their own category. It doesn’t hurt you, and means they can still compete and have a fair crack.

No. It's like hiding replies.

Speaking of which,here are all the ones GMB hid when promoting their puff piece, erasing women and telling girls not to bother trying as mediocre men will say some magic words and steal their dreams.

x.com/chiefbrody19/status/1749448559378776449?s=46&t=WHoOZ_3Kv5G6-FyQuvE0LQ

So true, I honestly cannot understand how we have become a nation who allows a male born golfer to win this tournament..what are the organisers thinking?! What is the point of a woman's only category..it doesn't affect men, because a trans man entering their sport, however unlikely that is, would have no negative impact on them.

Until this issue affects men, we will continue to be treated appalling by the governing bodies.

I'm a bit confused by Hailey admitting Hailey has an advantage, but not understanding why women are angry that Hailey is playing in their tournaments.

Time and time again, it's the same argument. He is a man, dressed as a women, hormones and Breast surgery will never change his biological advantage.
Trans people need their own category. Stealing from women should be a crime, and they are stealing, fame, sponsorship, prize money.

Only as 'unsafe' as any other male.

In fact in terms of populations, they are the safest demographic in the UK.

It is well documented that trans women are also not safe around men and I don’t want anyone to feel unsafe.

So we have men, feeling unsafe in men's spaces, because of the behaviour of other men.

Why are women being involved at all. We are not men's shields.

They tried that, and nobody entered.

Thank you for the link.