Male born person wins women’s golf tournament and is now “worried about his safety” - interviewed by GMB (Title edited by MNHQ)

[HermioneKipper]

Why the hell are GMB gaslighting women with this stuff?

https://twitter.com/GMB/status/1749329378352275568

This is an enormous male-bodied person - even larger than the interviewing man!

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He's not even trying to look like a woman.

Exactly

Especially since it means we have to share with men as the outcome

We want safety, privacy and dignity and males not to take women’s sports prizes

Calling this man 'she' doesn't directly hurt me either but I do know that by doing it I would be contributing to the hurt of the women forced to compete with him. Women who lose out on tournaments and prizes they've worked hard for.

I would be making it harder for them to resist the injustice being meted upon them and I would be making easier for next man to come along and do the same...and the next man after that...and the man after him...so on for ever and ever until women's sport is utterly destroyed.

In the face of that I won't do this man's bidding in a misplaced sense of doing right by him.

SchoolQuestionnaire - It may not hurt you to call a man she if he asks you to but by doing that you're pandering to this nonsense. I'm hoping that everyone soon realises how ridiculous this all is. The world has gone mad!

I've no issues with trans people at all. But I do think this person knows deep down that they are helping to steal woman's rights in plain sight. I completely agree with woman being angered by this.

They don't want their own spaces. That has been suggested so many times, but the TRAs don't want it. Id have happily fought alongside them for third spaces if that's what they were after, but in the main it's not.

And where is this well documented evidence of transwomen not being safe around men! And why the hell is that women's problem? As the thinking from transwomen currently seems to be some of us men aren't safe with the other men so we are going to make you women feel unsafe by being male and coming into your spaces? Where's the be kind element from the transwomen towards us women in that?

But when they do provide a special category for the special people, nobody wants it. So, is it about
a) wanting fair competition
b) wanting an easy win and validation at the expense of women?

I wonder?

Similarly, why isn't there a huge lobby for separate transgender toilets/changing rooms/prisons? I mean, this group, who, lets not forget, are the most marginalised and discriminated group that any society has ever known, have managed to get laws changed in their favour. A few toilets and changing rooms should be a doddle.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2023/oct/03/swimming-world-cup-category-for-transgender-athletes-cancelled-after-no-entries-received

To be fair to him, it hardly matters.

No male can be a woman, no matter what surgery he has or what he wears.

And most men will never manage anything other than a farcical approximation of a female stereotype superimposed on a large, masculine body that will never look womanly in any way.

It seems more honest for him to just present as he is than to attempt a risible cartoonish appearance based on stereotypes.

Apparently they don't want their own category, presumably because it's not validating or something

I think it was swimming that introduced a third category. I believe it is now being scrapped as no one was entering.

I have no issue with a separate category/space and I think most people feel the same. The problem is many transwomen want the rest of us to buy in to their delusion that they are actually women. They're not. They are men who are gender non-conforming men in terms of appearance but fully gender conforming in terms of male aggression and entitlement.

Until this issue affects men, we will continue to be treated appalling by the governing bodies.

It won't affect men, because they've quietly taken care of that.

UK inheritance law that favours males - exempt from any gender changes like a GRC.

Countries with a draft - still apples to biological men regardless of gender.

So they're merrily fucking over women, while making sure men don't lose out in any way. We should be fucking livid.

I'm not against it. But they are!

If this continues there will simply be no women’s sport at all, because no sane woman is going to compete against a biological man. Already there are cases of women pulling out of footballs etc to protect themselves.

you are right OP, this is crazy.

Of course this is ludicrous. Any adult male or female are welcome to dress and express themselves however they please. No issue with that. However there are differences between the sexes that no amount of pretending can change.

Sport should be separated by sex with an open category in my mind.

Women’s sports and opportunities are not for males no matter how nice they are and how they identify.

We already have women quitting their sports because there is no point.

See the very brave Lynn Pinches conceding her title and refusing to play pool with a male opponent.

Ah really now. Did you not notice the very feminine earrings?

It really doesn't matter how safe trans women are. As documented by the swimmer (thomas) He strutted his naked arse, with his penis out on display in the women's changing room.
I can't imagine any women being happy with that.
All the years women had to fight for their rights!!

Gosh yes - i absolutely do not think it should be anything like approaching a requirement to have any surgery for any circumstances. This is one thing that i am very very firm about. Top, bottom, or whatever surgeries that are possible are something that i really don't think anyone should be even encouraged to have, let alone mandated. I have seen far to many reports and articles about the ones that haven't gone right, or haven't turned out how the person thought it would. I really do want people to be happy and satisfied in their lives.

But it really isn't widely known about how few have surgery.

In response to the CEO of the golfing body, who has stated that they will carry out testosterone testing..I think Carilyn Johnson's response sums up the problems with this, below.

I don't wish him any harm, no-one should be threatened. That is not acceptable. But no matter the surgery, or the hormones, women are not just men with low testosterone. Ridiculous that it has to be said.

The problem is that women’s event organizers can’t simply say no to these participants, because they are worried about being sued. The transgender community’s legal support is extremely well funded, super organized and receives lots of donations.

@SchoolQuestionnaire

Where is it well documented that TW are at risk in men’s spaces? People say this but I feel like if TW were really at a specific risk above and beyond other men on a regular basis, Pink News would be having a field day reporting on the stories.

Have you ever wondered about the claims? We do known, however, that the risk to women rises significantly when toilets and changing spaces are unisex - which they are if TW are in them.

I know you said you advocate for their own spaces but they don’t want them. They’re only interested in the validation they get from using women’s space (note validation, not safety - because if it was safety they’d be happy just to have their own spaces).

I guess if you want to call a man a woman then you do you.

The rest of us will speak the truth and know we’re not hateful for doing so.

Is it well documented? It is very well documented that effeminite gay men aren't totally safe in men's toilets. I don't see (to be fair, i also don't search them out) reports or statistics about TW in men's toilets.

I want people to feel safe. Be safe. But the answer to "i don't feel safe in the men's" isn't "use the women's" it is: educate men not to make people unsafe, and campaign for 3rd spaces (I'm on board with that)

and to remind everyone (waves at the monitors) my first post said that i don't think TW should enter women's sport categories. And i don't think anyone should receive threats.

I'm so sick of this shit.

GMB know exactly what they're doing. Now everyone can see what a cheat Hailey is.