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ANOTHER Rochdale Grooming gang - beyond horrific.

153 replies

BlowingInTheWind82 · 31/10/2023 22:51

What is wrong with these men, ffs. Those poor poor girls. The abuse and assaults. They are children, why why why did this happen.

BBC Article to the sentencing

Mohammed Ghani, 38, Insar Hussain, 38, Jahn Shahid Ghani, 50, Martin Rhodes, 39, and Ali Razza Hussain Kazmi, 35, sexually exploited two teenage girls in Rochdale between 2002 and 2006.

Rochdale grooming: Predatory gang jailed for child abuse

Five men abused two girls when they were aged 13 and 14 after giving them drugs and alcohol.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-67279790

OP posts:
Alltheyearround · 31/10/2023 23:04

I saw this on the BBC news page. Bloody awful. Poor girls. Hope they are getting good support - terrible to carry those memories in your head. I am looking across at DS (13) who is asleep. Just children.

I hope those men are mortally ashamed of what they have done.
I'd happily throw away the key on the whole lot.

Notalldogs23 · 31/10/2023 23:11

Complete lack of respect for women and girls, just objects to them. Those poor girls, but so brave to go through the prosecution.

BlowingInTheWind82 · 31/10/2023 23:20

Incredibly incredibly brave girls.

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Witchcraftandhokum · 31/10/2023 23:23

Let's not forget in Newcastle there was a female perpetrator also.

SeulementUneFois · 31/10/2023 23:24

That is abhorrent.
How are those men human beings. Vile creatures - why is there so little shame brought upon rapists and the like.
I'm sure their mates thought that the girls - children! - were asking for it.

PickAChew · 31/10/2023 23:27

Witchcraftandhokum · 31/10/2023 23:23

Let's not forget in Newcastle there was a female perpetrator also.

Which should do nothing to detract from these morally bankrupt shitbags

Gingernaut · 31/10/2023 23:30

Witchcraftandhokum · 31/10/2023 23:23

Let's not forget in Newcastle there was a female perpetrator also.

Quite often, these female accomplices are groomed into the roles themselves

Acting as bait/recruiter/fake friend/mother hen to the girls they recruit on behalf of the gangs

Victims and perpetrators can become quite enmeshed

Totaly · 31/10/2023 23:31

We live in a society that turns a blind eye.

We teach children about body autonomy and the say no - that clearly isn’t enough.

These children would’ve been scared of repercussions for speaking up. They were trapped.
And those evil monsters knew it .

balzamico · 31/10/2023 23:51

I thought this would be about the Adam ocg program I watched tonight also Rochdale but his time young boys groomed into selling drugs. Men acting like they're totally above the law and flaunting the proceeds

Kpo58 · 31/10/2023 23:53

What depressingly light sentences these men are getting. They aren't suddenly going to become less dangerous in 15-20 years, especially if they get reduced for "good" behaviour.

VyeBrator · 31/10/2023 23:55

Gingernaut · 31/10/2023 23:30

Quite often, these female accomplices are groomed into the roles themselves

Acting as bait/recruiter/fake friend/mother hen to the girls they recruit on behalf of the gangs

Victims and perpetrators can become quite enmeshed

Lets not excuse it though shall we?

Do you often think some of the men might also have 'reasons' to abuse children?

There is no excuse.

Comtesse · 01/11/2023 00:04

knock it off with the whatsboutery - these horrors were men.

AngeloMysterioso · 01/11/2023 00:10

WTF is this “penetrative sex with a child” business?! Surely it’s just rape?!

Livelovebehappy · 01/11/2023 00:29

Ugly scumbags too. Guess the only way they felt they were going to get anyone to have sex with them was if they drugged and manipulated under age girls.

maddening · 01/11/2023 00:33

Witchcraftandhokum · 31/10/2023 23:23

Let's not forget in Newcastle there was a female perpetrator also.

And?

WhoBrokeIt · 01/11/2023 00:35

They're dirty, filthy bastards who should be wired to the mains.

OnlyFannys · 01/11/2023 01:21

Urgh this is depressing, I grew up in Rochdale so it gives me extra creeps as it's so close to home

LardoBurrows · 01/11/2023 01:27

WhoBrokeIt · 01/11/2023 00:35

They're dirty, filthy bastards who should be wired to the mains.

Damn right.

coxesorangepippin · 01/11/2023 01:58

Ah well if there's a female perpetrator then it's equal isn't it

TangerineNeonLight · 01/11/2023 02:01

Witchcraftandhokum · 31/10/2023 23:23

Let's not forget in Newcastle there was a female perpetrator also.

What a stupid comment.

WandaWonder · 01/11/2023 02:17

Were on earth were the children's parents?

Noicant · 01/11/2023 04:02

It’s utterly heartbreaking, what pieces of shit this lot are.

BOOTS52PollyPrissyPants · 01/11/2023 04:04

Am shocked reading this absolutely disgusting. How can a group of men think that this is just ok in any way, Is there so many depraved men out there that drugs, and has sex with 13 year old girls and thinks that is fine. Then passes them around when they are out of their head. They are very brave in going through this in court and I bet there are so many other cases of this. In the country where they are from or their parents are from young girls are married off at 11 to old men. Just gross they should be locked up for good. Hope they get what's coming to them in jail. Makes me feel so angry to read this poor young girls groomed and treated like crap at such a young age, really hope they get the support they need as it will be a difficult road ahead for them.

Twicemother · 01/11/2023 04:13

How to stop them??

There was a very large and long established gang like this in Walsall. It's been recently uncovered. Generations of girls targeted! Horrific, just awful.

Its so wide spread and it seems to be right under everyone's noses!

Rochdale, Telford, Newcastle, Walsall, Rotherham, and so many many other cities. Its got to be stopped! How is it allowed to run on for generations?

Vile people targeting the most vulnerable.

Psychodancehall · 01/11/2023 04:23

I think of my 17 year old daughter and her pal tonight. They had nowhere to go tonight for Halloween, so spent the night dressing up as scary witches and eating sweets /watching daft scary filmsand giggling with the wee kids at the door handing out sweets- so innocent! And think of these wee girls so much younger being abused by these vile monsters ! Absolute evil scum who have no regard for women and girls. I note that the older ones were found not guilty - were there not enough evidence there or are they really not guilty ?? I bet these creeps thought they had got away with this for years . I bet this still goes on in our towns and cities. Sometimes I despise men.