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AIBU to think that Diane Abbott needs to go.

171 replies

SayingwhatIreallythink · 24/10/2023 12:59

Jewish Londoners are terrified at the moment, yet she feels free to tweet this. https://x.com/hackneyabbott/status/1716729429710221523?s=46&t=05yGEdd9Da70jO24KELKog

https://x.com/hackneyabbott/status/1716729429710221523?s=46&t=05yGEdd9Da70jO24KELKog

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Fairyliz · 24/10/2023 13:01

She needs to go simply because she is too thick to be in a position of power; it’s actually quite scary. Why on earth would you put that on a public forum.

itsmylife7 · 24/10/2023 13:07
Sleepy That 70S Show GIF by Laff

I'm just lost for words at her "mindset "

CwmYoy · 24/10/2023 13:07

Dreadful woman. Brings the Labour party into disrepute and has done for years.

Runningonempty01 · 24/10/2023 13:08

She is no longer a member of Labour party so there is nothing Labour can do about her.

skippy67 · 24/10/2023 13:09

Runningonempty01 · 24/10/2023 13:08

She is no longer a member of Labour party so there is nothing Labour can do about her.

This.

Kerrylass · 24/10/2023 13:19

Don't mix Palestinians up with Hamas. Its like linking the Irish with the IRA.

Being Pro Palestine is not being anti Semitic or pro Hamas.

What is happening to Israel is horrific, it is also horrific how Palestinians have been treated over the last 50 + years.

Respectably I think people need to examine the 2 sides in this conflict and have some empty for both.

I will re-iterate that what Hamas have done is barbaric but it doesn't give Israel cart blanch to obliterate the Palestinians.

Throwhandsupintheair · 24/10/2023 14:31

Kerrylass · 24/10/2023 13:19

Don't mix Palestinians up with Hamas. Its like linking the Irish with the IRA.

Being Pro Palestine is not being anti Semitic or pro Hamas.

What is happening to Israel is horrific, it is also horrific how Palestinians have been treated over the last 50 + years.

Respectably I think people need to examine the 2 sides in this conflict and have some empty for both.

I will re-iterate that what Hamas have done is barbaric but it doesn't give Israel cart blanch to obliterate the Palestinians.

This. I’m becoming increasingly uncomfortable with the view of some, that nobody can make comments in support of the Palestinians, without being accused of being against Israel or a supporter of terrorism.

You can be against Hamas, not support the current Israeli government, be a supporter of Israel, and want to see a Palestinian state all at the same time.

tabulaisrasa · 24/10/2023 14:45

Throwhandsupintheair · 24/10/2023 14:31

This. I’m becoming increasingly uncomfortable with the view of some, that nobody can make comments in support of the Palestinians, without being accused of being against Israel or a supporter of terrorism.

You can be against Hamas, not support the current Israeli government, be a supporter of Israel, and want to see a Palestinian state all at the same time.

All of this.

Summonedbybees · 24/10/2023 14:55

It is 75 years since the state of Israel was established. That is a long time ago. Apparently people who think the Stuarts should still be the ruling monarchs of the UK used to toast the King over a bowl of water to signify that they were toasting the pretender overseas.
So many of the countries around Israel were established after Israel in 1948.

HermioneWeasley · 24/10/2023 14:56

She’s always had a massive blind spot about anti semitism and clearly has made zero efforts to learn and understand m. It’s very disappointing

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 24/10/2023 14:57

How can you pay attention to someone who can’t put on matching shoes?

justteanbiscuits · 24/10/2023 15:02

HermioneWeasley · 24/10/2023 14:56

She’s always had a massive blind spot about anti semitism and clearly has made zero efforts to learn and understand m. It’s very disappointing

It is not anti-Semitic to post what she did.

Whilst I agree with others that a tube driver should not being bringing their politics to play in this way, I think we can agree that what she said is basically true.

Lampzade · 24/10/2023 15:03

Throwhandsupintheair · 24/10/2023 14:31

This. I’m becoming increasingly uncomfortable with the view of some, that nobody can make comments in support of the Palestinians, without being accused of being against Israel or a supporter of terrorism.

You can be against Hamas, not support the current Israeli government, be a supporter of Israel, and want to see a Palestinian state all at the same time.

This

LakeTiticaca · 24/10/2023 15:26

He wasn't just chanting Free Palestine though was he? He should be sacked and charged with incitement to anti semitism.
Ms Abbott should have been put out to pasture years ago along with her ex boyfriend, the odious terrorist hugger Corbyn.

Suusue · 24/10/2023 15:32

She is a dreadful woman and an even worse MP. How she ever got to that position I'll never know. An embarrassment. Yes she should g

Suusue · 24/10/2023 15:33

Dreadful woman and an even more dreadful MP. How she ever got to that position I'll never know. She should be thrown out along with Corbyn. A disgrace.

Everythinghasgonetoshit · 24/10/2023 15:53

Kerrylass · 24/10/2023 13:19

Don't mix Palestinians up with Hamas. Its like linking the Irish with the IRA.

Being Pro Palestine is not being anti Semitic or pro Hamas.

What is happening to Israel is horrific, it is also horrific how Palestinians have been treated over the last 50 + years.

Respectably I think people need to examine the 2 sides in this conflict and have some empty for both.

I will re-iterate that what Hamas have done is barbaric but it doesn't give Israel cart blanch to obliterate the Palestinians.

This.

I think Abbot has a point that people should be allowed to sympathise with the innocent Palentinians that had nothing to do with the Hamas attacks and are now being killed, but it does come across like she isd not acknowledging the horrific things Hamas did too. The Ukrainian government are nothing like Hamas and did not go into Russia and murder people and take hostages. It's a strange comparison. I sympathise with both Palestinians and Israeli civilians because they have been dragged into this horrific war where noboby seems to give a shit about civilian deaths or casualties (even our government), but I do not have any support for Hamas and the Israeli government and BN.

I don't think a tube driver should be political at work though.

karakchai · 24/10/2023 15:56

I mean she does have a point Smile

Leggytigberk · 24/10/2023 16:31

Don't mix Palestinians up with Hamas. Its like linking the Irish with the IRA.
Being Pro Palestine is not being anti Semitic or pro Hamas.

Or confusing Ms Abbott and sensible politicians

Vegetus · 24/10/2023 16:48

Unless he was calling for violence against Jews what has he done wrong? I'm pretty sure he's not allowed to give political views over the tannoy at work and will be fired but it's not a criminal offence.

Lampzade · 24/10/2023 17:07

Suusue · 24/10/2023 15:32

She is a dreadful woman and an even worse MP. How she ever got to that position I'll never know. An embarrassment. Yes she should g

Tbf she was a decent local MP

LlynTegid · 24/10/2023 17:11

Diane Abbott is not standing for election again.

Rudderneck · 24/10/2023 17:16

I don't really think it matters where a person's sympathies lie, they are allowed to protest without losing their job.

What might complicate this slightly is that he was in his workplace. So asking, if a driver was leading a protest about another political issue on the tube, would he be let go, seems a reasonable comparison to me.

Iwasafool · 24/10/2023 17:22

I watched Sky last night. I saw a little toddler who was terrified as the bombs were dropping, she was clinging to her mother and father had his arms round them. We were told that in a subsequent bombing the mother and child survived but the father died.

I cried. I don't care about their religion, I don't care if they are called Palestinians or Israelis. No child should be living like that and who knows where she will be getting food and water from or medicine if she is ill. It is heartbreaking.

Iwasafool · 24/10/2023 17:23

Lampzade · 24/10/2023 17:07

Tbf she was a decent local MP

Tbf some people seem to find it difficult to be fair about her.

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