AIBU to think that Diane Abbott needs to go.

[SayingwhatIreallythink]

Jewish Londoners are terrified at the moment, yet she feels free to tweet this. https://x.com/hackneyabbott/status/1716729429710221523?s=46&t=05yGEdd9Da70jO24KELKog

@lostinspace00 islamaphobic attacks are on the rise, it's been widely reported by main news outlets, think it was on the BBC app yesterday.

Awful woman.

I would consider voting Labour if they got rid of idiots like her.

He should be let go no matter what political protest he's making. There's a time and a place and while he's working isn't it.

I totally agree that you can be for the Palestinian people and against Hamas but aren’t the protests framed as “anti Hamas” protests? This is something everyone could get behind.

@towriteyoumustlive they have. She’s an independent MP if you’d read the thread 😂

I only know it from first hand accounts. Palestinian kids at my sons school being attacked and abused.

And yes. I agree the tube driver should be disciplined, but so should the one that did similar for Ukraine. It's not the place for any political statement.

People get very silly about comparisons.

It is possible, and often useful, to compare two things that are in many ways different, or where they are not equally serious, or whatever. You are comparing one element, not saying that they are the same thing.

Often with a comparison like that, the whole point is that they are differernt, that is why you want to compare them, to look at the element that is the same and isolate it.

DA here wasn't even comparing Israel and Ukraine, that is just sloppy thinking. She is comparing a person supporting Palestine, the country, in a political setting, to a person in the same setting supporting Ukraine. And asking if they would be seen the same way by the general public, and if they would both be fired in this scenario.

Anyway, I agree that they should be treated the same, which is to say, not allowed.

But she may be right, it's possible the driver would not have been let go for a free-Ukraine chant.

@catlovingdoctor "Free Palestine" isn't anti-Semitic and I agree that Palestine should be free

However "from the river to the sea Palestine will be free" absolutely is anti-Semitic

Drivers should just drive the train. And shut up about anything else. Nobody needs to know their views on whatever the subject matter is. He/she was at work. Whether it was Ukraine, free Palestine or pro Israeli.

How she can’t understand the difference???
Im glad that Labour Party got rid of her.

It's not about punishment though - it's about eradicating the neighbouring extreme threat to Israel's existence. Hamas' mandate is genocide. They just committed the deadliest attack to Jews since the Holocaust. Israel needs to neutralise the threat, in the same way putting down a dangerous dog isn't 'punishing' it.

Yep agree with @AzureBlue99 .

Furthermore, I think anyone who reduces this terrible, devastating conflict to a catchy slogan needs their head examined.

How in practice can Palestine be “free” without eradicating the State of Israel?

It was free before.

By implementing the 2 state peace solution Israel went back on. I still can’t believe how some Palestinian families were treated - indigenous people whose families built the cities being locked out of their own homes. Now you have a despot in charge who wants to eradicate them.

100% This. There’s nothing wrong with her post, she has a valid point. The driver wouldn’t have gotten in trouble about Ukraine regardless of the fact it was inappropriate. I think as a politician, DA pointing out different people are valued differently is fine. It’s a struggle for me to take people seriously as they complain about discrimination while dusting off the stupid black person stereotype.

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@Chuffaluffa

exactly this

Do you also believe that Israel cannot be free without eradicating Palestine?

@happinessischocolate They certainly need to eradicate Hamas.

We suffer enough from activists in this country :Traffic stalled for Climate Change, people afraid to send kids to school because of trans activism, streets clogged and Jewish citizens terrorised because of Palestine, big companies proudly being activist in a popular cause...
The last thing we need is some fuckwit shouting slogans in a confined space like the Tube. This is not why I buy a ticket to travel. I do not want to be forced to listen to said FWs understanding of politics which is tiny enough to be compressed to a slogan on a tee shirt.
I hope the Tube driver is sacked for forcing his views on the public in such an illmannered way.