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AIBU to think that Diane Abbott needs to go.

171 replies

SayingwhatIreallythink · 24/10/2023 12:59

Jewish Londoners are terrified at the moment, yet she feels free to tweet this. https://x.com/hackneyabbott/status/1716729429710221523?s=46&t=05yGEdd9Da70jO24KELKog

https://x.com/hackneyabbott/status/1716729429710221523?s=46&t=05yGEdd9Da70jO24KELKog

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topnoddy · 24/10/2023 17:25

LlynTegid · 24/10/2023 17:11

Diane Abbott is not standing for election again.

Has she been told that yet ?

Zebedee55 · 24/10/2023 17:26

I don't think too many people take any notice of her nowadays.🙄. Plus,she has said she won't stand for re-election:

https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/diane-abbott-indicates-she-wont-stand-for-labour-at-election-amid-extraordinary-attack-on-starmer-2628080

Worddance · 24/10/2023 17:27

Throwhandsupintheair · 24/10/2023 14:31

This. I’m becoming increasingly uncomfortable with the view of some, that nobody can make comments in support of the Palestinians, without being accused of being against Israel or a supporter of terrorism.

You can be against Hamas, not support the current Israeli government, be a supporter of Israel, and want to see a Palestinian state all at the same time.

Agreed. Someone needs to be able to say that Palestinians should be free. How appalling if that becomes censored.

Lilibert456 · 24/10/2023 17:29

She lost the plot ages ago. Always remember the odd shoes incident

FOJN · 24/10/2023 17:33

I think she is asking a legitimate question about double standards.

I wouldn't be happy about a tube driver leading a chant of "free Ukraine" either so I think the action taken against him is appropriate.

I am very concerned about the treatment of Palestinians by the Israeli government but I don't think individuals have a right to promote their personal politics on their employers time.

Viviennemary · 24/10/2023 17:36

Those terrorists are to blame for this. Nobody else. Maybe they will think twice before going on a murderous killing spree again.

PlanetJanette · 24/10/2023 17:37

Worddance · 24/10/2023 17:27

Agreed. Someone needs to be able to say that Palestinians should be free. How appalling if that becomes censored.

The problem is that one can believe (I do) that there should be an independent Palestinean state while also recognising that the relationship between Palestine (particularly Gaza) and Israel is nothing like Ukraine and Russia.

Ukraine is a democratic country that posed no threat to the security of Russia. Its freedom can be universally celebrated without reservation because its existence poses no harm to any other country.

Palestine, as 'led' by Hamas, does pose a security threat to Israel. And so simply calling for a 'Free Palestine' in the current context is not even slightly comparable to Ukraine. A free Palestine under Hamas means a free country neighbouring Israel that is committed to eradicating the existence of Israel, and is willing to take any steps it can to achieve that (such as the activity we saw on 7 Oct).

Like it or not - 'Free Palestine' right now does mean freedom for Hamas to continue its approach. At a time when anti-semitism is on the rise, an agent for TFL leading chants that could reasonably be perceived as an endorsement of the 'river to the sea' approach of Hamas is wildly inappropriate.

None of that means that Israel's approach has been the right one, either before or after 7/10. None of it means that a two state solution isn't the ideal outcome.

topnoddy · 24/10/2023 17:39

It states she won't stand for Labour , as she is not a member of the party anymore , albeit suspended at the moment

KrisAkabusi · 24/10/2023 17:43

LakeTiticaca · 24/10/2023 15:26

He wasn't just chanting Free Palestine though was he? He should be sacked and charged with incitement to anti semitism.
Ms Abbott should have been put out to pasture years ago along with her ex boyfriend, the odious terrorist hugger Corbyn.

He was though. According to the article, all he did was chant "free Palestine".

happinessischocolate · 24/10/2023 17:44

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 24/10/2023 14:57

How can you pay attention to someone who can’t put on matching shoes?

How can you be so stupid as to believe a photoshopped picture on the internet 😂😂

TheWernethWife · 24/10/2023 17:48

I have a photo of queen Elizabeth shaking hands with Martin McGuiness, both were smiling. Terrorist or what.

allsfairin · 24/10/2023 17:51

she lost all credibility when she claimed there were too many blond haired blue eyed nurses in the NHS

SayingwhatIreallythink · 24/10/2023 18:12

LakeTiticaca · 24/10/2023 15:26

He wasn't just chanting Free Palestine though was he? He should be sacked and charged with incitement to anti semitism.
Ms Abbott should have been put out to pasture years ago along with her ex boyfriend, the odious terrorist hugger Corbyn.

Exactly. Imagine being Jewish on that train.

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EasternStandard · 24/10/2023 18:19

SayingwhatIreallythink · 24/10/2023 18:12

Exactly. Imagine being Jewish on that train.

That’s what I thought and agree with @LakeTiticaca too.

I’m with majority yanbu

cocksstrideintheevening · 24/10/2023 18:20

She's needed to go for years. How the fuck she is still there I don't know.

HipTeens · 24/10/2023 18:22

Yes she's awful. What a dreadful thing to say!

She and therese coffey can go and start their own "letting women down" party.

RocketIceLollie · 24/10/2023 18:23

She's been awful for a long time.

At a wider context, unfortunately this conflict is bringing out the woodwork all the toxic people in society who like to intimidate and spread hate.

HipTeens · 24/10/2023 18:24

Did she @allsfairin ? Wow! Is she in league with Adjoa Andoh? She can join the letting women down party two.

StrictlyAFemaleFemale · 24/10/2023 18:24

You can think what you like but unless you're a registered voter in her constituency then your opinion is of no consequence.

TitusMoan · 24/10/2023 18:25

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 24/10/2023 14:57

How can you pay attention to someone who can’t put on matching shoes?

Thought that was Photoshop?

Desecratedcoconut · 24/10/2023 18:26

That woman is a bloody disgrace.

IAmAnIdiot123 · 24/10/2023 18:28

Zebedee55 · 24/10/2023 17:26

I don't think too many people take any notice of her nowadays.🙄. Plus,she has said she won't stand for re-election:

https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/diane-abbott-indicates-she-wont-stand-for-labour-at-election-amid-extraordinary-attack-on-starmer-2628080

Edited

She also said she disagreed with private education then sent her son to a private school. I wouldn't believe a word she says.

I don't think she even means harm, I think she just randomly says stuff.

I have no idea what happened with the shoes.

MyGooseisTotallyLoose · 24/10/2023 18:30

Is there going to be lots of wide eyed innocent 'but he was only saying.."

Bloom15 · 24/10/2023 18:31

Kerrylass · 24/10/2023 13:19

Don't mix Palestinians up with Hamas. Its like linking the Irish with the IRA.

Being Pro Palestine is not being anti Semitic or pro Hamas.

What is happening to Israel is horrific, it is also horrific how Palestinians have been treated over the last 50 + years.

Respectably I think people need to examine the 2 sides in this conflict and have some empty for both.

I will re-iterate that what Hamas have done is barbaric but it doesn't give Israel cart blanch to obliterate the Palestinians.

Completely agree