AIBU to think that Diane Abbott needs to go.

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Jewish Londoners are terrified at the moment, yet she feels free to tweet this. https://x.com/hackneyabbott/status/1716729429710221523?s=46&t=05yGEdd9Da70jO24KELKog

And stop comparing the Irish/the IRA to the Palestinians/Hamas. The IRA never governed Ireland, was never voted in, did not have mainstream support in the way Hamas do. Ireland viewed the IRA as a terrorist organisation. During The Troubles, even Sinn Fein was a tiny little minority party outside of NI.

It is extremely disingenuous to pretend that Hamas don’t have huge support among Palestinian people.

Don't mix Palestinians up with Hamas. Its like linking the Irish with the IRA.

The people of Northern Ireland did not elect Sinn Fein (political arm of the IRA) during the Troubles. The most popular pro-United Ireland party was the SDLP at that time.

Hamas is the elected ruler of Gaza though. That’s the difference.

She’s made a very good point. Stop being an idiot - you know Palestine isn’t Hamas

Palestine can only be “free” according to the Palestinians if Israel no longer exists.

But there was no anti semitic chanting.

It's entirely acceptable to want the occupied territories of Palestine to be free!

Hamas is the elected ruler of Gaza though. That’s the difference.

There hasn't been an election there since 2006...

The woman has always been a fuckwitted idiot. It's embarrassing she's ever been an MP.

Why do you think that is @skippy67 ?

YABU

Ignoring her comment for one moment. If she was in the private sector she would have been sacked DECADES ago. She probably has her name written on a post-it note in case she needs to remember it in a hurry.

But it’s not appropriate for a train driver on shift to lead chanting for anything at all regardless of the topic. His job is to drive the train and to tell people to mind clear of the doors / stop blocking the doorway and to say “we’re being held at a signal and will be on our way soon” nothing else

I agree in my opinion there was no anti semitic chanting. And I think she asked a fair question.

The crisis existed decades before the most recent massacres...come on wake up.
Every day now hundreds of civilians die in and orgy of death and expensive weaponry, but thats ok, they werent deliberately targeted, its alledged.

Hamas consolidated power in a coup, killing Fatah officials, and with Iranian sponsorship. Its funny how Netanyahu sidelines the moderate Palestinians such as the PLO, who accept a state of Israel and want to progress to a 2 state solution.
I guess hes more comfortable with Hamas as his nemisis, then all valid Palestinian needs and desires can oblitorated.

That woman has been a liability to the Labour Party for years. She should have gone years ago.

I think she should stay exactly where she is, which is outside this dreadful Labour Party.

And people should be free to pro-Palestine in this great British democracy.

Which means Israel disappears. If you don't understand that's what Hamas want, you really shouldn't be commenting on the issue.

The amount of posts questioning Diane abbot’s intelligence, despite her clear academic credentials. It’s almost like whatever she achieved wouldn’t be good enough. I wish I had a 100th of the resilience she has to get up and keep fighting for peace and justice and fairness in the face of relentless abuse towards her.

we don’t see anywhere near the same level of vitriol towards some of the most disgusting politicians we currently have, actually in the front bench, making decisions, abusing their power, corrupting our politics. Wonder why.

It's also worth remembering why she was suspended by Labour in the first place, and bearing that in mind her current views are hardly a surprise:

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/uks-labour-suspends-diane-abbott-saying-jews-experience-prejudice-not-racism-2023-04-23/

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She's scum

Imagine being a Palestinian child whose house has been demolished and family wiped out by an Israeli missile..(!)

How is being the first black female MP whose held her seat for something like 30 years a liability to her party?

She's independent now anyway since Starmer decided he didn't want left wingers in the party 🤦‍♀️

I am not a fan of Dianne Abbott but I hate this constant “she’s stupid” rhetoric
She’s not stupid, she’s been a very competent and repeatedly re-elected MP for her constituency and retorts about her intellect are lazy

she has a blind spot with anti-semitism, as many people do. As an MP I’d expect her to do more work to address this, but she is by no means the only MP who needs this

the tweet (and who on earth thinks Twitter is the right forum for nuanced discussion??) is not hate speech, and you are perfectly in your rights to disagree but I don’t think it’s outrageous

honestly, I hate defending her because I disagree with so much of her politics, but I will call it out when I see double standards

"Free Palestine" is not anti-semitic. It literally does not reference the Jewish people at all.