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AIBU to think that Diane Abbott needs to go.

171 replies

SayingwhatIreallythink · 24/10/2023 12:59

Jewish Londoners are terrified at the moment, yet she feels free to tweet this. https://x.com/hackneyabbott/status/1716729429710221523?s=46&t=05yGEdd9Da70jO24KELKog

https://x.com/hackneyabbott/status/1716729429710221523?s=46&t=05yGEdd9Da70jO24KELKog

OP posts:
Iwasafool · 24/10/2023 18:37

happinessischocolate · 24/10/2023 17:44

How can you be so stupid as to believe a photoshopped picture on the internet 😂😂

My husband was a police officer, he came home off duty at 7 am and fell into bed and was quickly asleep. I got up to go to work getting dressed in the dark so as not to disturb him. I had identical style shoes in navy and black and guess what, I went to work with a blue shoe and a black shoe. Thirty five years later I still seem to be able to manage so if it was the start of some terrible decline it is a really slow one. Even if she really did wear odd shoes I don't think it means much but maybe I'm too invested in the situation.

Teddleshon · 24/10/2023 18:37

I think she has some sort of cognitive decline, it's been apparent for some time.

Iwasafool · 24/10/2023 18:39

SayingwhatIreallythink · 24/10/2023 18:12

Exactly. Imagine being Jewish on that train.

You know some Jewish people are in favour of a free Palestine?

Maddy70 · 24/10/2023 18:39

Sje isn't in the labour party ...

TodayInahurry · 24/10/2023 18:46

No, she cannot go, she is a gift - to the Cobpnservatives!

topnoddy · 24/10/2023 19:27

cocksstrideintheevening · 24/10/2023 18:20

She's needed to go for years. How the fuck she is still there I don't know.

It's pretty simple really

People vote for her in the general election

Why they do so is completely beyond me though

soundsys · 24/10/2023 19:31

LakeTiticaca · 24/10/2023 15:26

He wasn't just chanting Free Palestine though was he? He should be sacked and charged with incitement to anti semitism.
Ms Abbott should have been put out to pasture years ago along with her ex boyfriend, the odious terrorist hugger Corbyn.

This!

Do we actually have clarity about what he was chanting? Because there's a BIG difference between "free Palestine" and "from the river to the sea..."

soundsys · 24/10/2023 19:34

@Iwasafool you can be Jewish and for a free Palestinian state and also not want to hear anti-Semitic chanting on your commute though

PTSDBarbiegirl · 24/10/2023 19:43

FOJN · 24/10/2023 17:33

I think she is asking a legitimate question about double standards.

I wouldn't be happy about a tube driver leading a chant of "free Ukraine" either so I think the action taken against him is appropriate.

I am very concerned about the treatment of Palestinians by the Israeli government but I don't think individuals have a right to promote their personal politics on their employers time.

Unless those employers are the UK government.

luckylavender · 24/10/2023 19:43

Fairyliz · 24/10/2023 13:01

She needs to go simply because she is too thick to be in a position of power; it’s actually quite scary. Why on earth would you put that on a public forum.

She's certainly not thick. But she's definitely a liability. You

luckylavender · 24/10/2023 19:44

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 24/10/2023 14:57

How can you pay attention to someone who can’t put on matching shoes?

You fell for that fake news?! Oh dear.

luckylavender · 24/10/2023 19:45

Lilibert456 · 24/10/2023 17:29

She lost the plot ages ago. Always remember the odd shoes incident

It wasn't an incident. It was a mocked up
image.

Binjob118 · 24/10/2023 19:46

This is a really nasty thread, tearing apart a woman who has worked hard for many unheard communities for decades. She doesn't support the genocide of the Palestinian people and believes in free speech. More than a hint of something here, as seen in the tabloid press reporting on her for years.

Surreyclaire · 24/10/2023 19:48

She said the only thing wrong with the uk is the white people in it
she is racist rubbish
she also refused to condemn the Hamas attacks on jews

SaracensMavericks · 24/10/2023 19:50

Diane Abbott was the first black woman MP and the longest serving black MP. Have the people on this thread criticising her achieved anything like that themselves? The amount of online hate this woman receives is absolutely shameful.

Surreyclaire · 24/10/2023 20:06

SaracensMavericks · 24/10/2023 19:50

Diane Abbott was the first black woman MP and the longest serving black MP. Have the people on this thread criticising her achieved anything like that themselves? The amount of online hate this woman receives is absolutely shameful.

So because she is black she can not be criticised??
Being black does not mean you are absolved from being racist and hopeless

SaracensMavericks · 24/10/2023 20:11

I'm not saying she can't ever be criticised. I'm talking about the posters calling her stupid (sorry I should have made that clear). She is not stupid.

LolaSmiles · 24/10/2023 20:13

I don't really think it matters where a person's sympathies lie, they are allowed to protest without losing their job.

What might complicate this slightly is that he was in his workplace. So asking, if a driver was leading a protest about another political issue on the tube, would he be let go, seems a reasonable comparison to me

Agree with this. The issue isn't that he sympathises with the Palestinian people. The issue is using his workplace to protest about political issues.

That said, I think Dianne Abbott was very foolish to write that tweet.

NotAscoob · 24/10/2023 20:13

Fairyliz · 24/10/2023 13:01

She needs to go simply because she is too thick to be in a position of power; it’s actually quite scary. Why on earth would you put that on a public forum.

Yeah I agree with this. She is a liability.

Namechangeagain2023 · 24/10/2023 20:16

The train driver should not have been sharing his political views on a train. His job is driving a train, not giving his political opinion. He could have done that after work.

Teddleshon · 24/10/2023 20:21

I agree @Namechangeagain2023 and I would also have agreed if he had led a “stand with Israel chant”. He is there to drive the train not air his views. I’m so over being bombarded with politicised views by shops and businesses.

sashagabadon · 24/10/2023 20:22

I’ve been getting on tubes almost daily for 49 plus years and the only thing tube tannoy announcements are for is to give passengers information related to their tube journey or the wider tube network and that is it. They are to explain delays, tell people what is happening on the line they are on and to remind people to get off if applicable. Sometimes you get drivers telling people not to lean on the doors and not to run to catch tubes as they might slip and that vaping is not allowed.
that is it . Anything else is irrelevant and not appropriate. Drivers have no idea who is on their train and there could be hundreds of people using their train over the course of a tube line.

LolaSmiles · 24/10/2023 20:25

I’m so over being bombarded with politicised views by shops and businesses.
Same here.
I want businesses to be good at what they do and get on with providing the goods/services to a high standard.

I don't want them pushing political views, latest lobby agendas, or some knee jerk reaction to complex world events.

Xenia · 24/10/2023 20:25

I am pro Israel and the UK has chosen to expand its population with people from some countries which are very anti Jewish so I suppose we have reaped what we sowed. However I am also in favour of free speech so DA can tweet that if she likes. I don't agree with her analogy.

On the question of the tube driver, he was at work so should keep politics out of things. Has it been disclosed who he is?

No1MumPendant · 24/10/2023 20:28

She is fading out of public life and her time is almost over, so I’m not too worried about Diane Abbott. She’s of that ill of the Left who never evolved from student politics of the 70s & 80s. No nuance, no intelligent opinion, just knew-jerk viva la revolucion stuff without a scooby about the complexity of the situation in which they pronounce.

The train driver is an idiot, though. Nobody wants to hear your political views, mate. Just tell us to mind the gap and stay in your lane.