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Adam Kay and his husband’s babies

434 replies

MatildaTheCat · 18/06/2023 17:38

Apologies if this has already been covered.

I read in the paper this morning that AK and his DH have welcomed TWO babies into their lives, born to two different surrogates. One child is six months old and their sibling is two months old.

I genuinely cannot wrap my head around this. It seems so very odd to me. Is it a case of ‘one each’ or ‘get the baby stages over asap’?

Obviously nobody but the two parents can answer this but AIBU to find this really quite disturbing?

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hattyhathat · 18/06/2023 18:04

SoupDragon · 18/06/2023 17:56

If one is 4 months older than the other, they clearly didn't conceive at the same time.

True

SleepingStandingUp · 18/06/2023 18:04

Moral discussion aside,
Daughter was am month early so there should have been 3 months between them. I assume they were intending to go for "twins" but son took a few more cycles to conceive.

If you've not birth to recover from and can buy in help, I see a practical logic to having them both at a similar time, one lots of new born hell, altho 4 month regression etc are split, one lkot of new starts for school etc.

Beebumble2 · 18/06/2023 18:08

RedToothBrush · 18/06/2023 18:01

Also if you are going to make money and raise your pr status off the back of selling your life story to the press, you lose the right to say it's no one else's business.

He was on Desert Island Discs this morning, telling the world about the surrogacy. I hated his book This Is Going To Hurt, couldn’t read anything else he wrote!

Avondale89 · 18/06/2023 18:09

Surely finding it ”really disturbing” is over the top isn’t it?

RedToothBrush · 18/06/2023 18:10

Avondale89 · 18/06/2023 18:09

Surely finding it ”really disturbing” is over the top isn’t it?

No. Not really.

Not when you buy one then buy a second just to ensure you get what you want and to hell with the lives of two women and two babies.

If you don't find baby trafficking really disturbing, you should

terryleather · 18/06/2023 18:10

RedToothBrush · 18/06/2023 17:52

There's another thread on this.

Surrogacy is baby trafficking. They bought two. One was a difficult pregnancy.

And that's without considering how reprehensible this man is to begin with and how much he hates women.

Appalling individual who cashes in and exploits the misery of others.

This. All day long.

Avondale89 · 18/06/2023 18:11

RedToothBrush · 18/06/2023 18:10

No. Not really.

Not when you buy one then buy a second just to ensure you get what you want and to hell with the lives of two women and two babies.

If you don't find baby trafficking really disturbing, you should

Ok. Typical rational MN response. Obviously, yes I think baby trafficking is wonderful and I eat babies for breakfast.

JulesJules · 18/06/2023 18:11

thevery · 18/06/2023 18:02

Unsurprisingly someone who wrote about women with complete contempt in his book is now happy to exploit women's bodies for his own convenience.

I agree.

Quiverer · 18/06/2023 18:12

RedToothBrush · 18/06/2023 17:52

There's another thread on this.

Surrogacy is baby trafficking. They bought two. One was a difficult pregnancy.

And that's without considering how reprehensible this man is to begin with and how much he hates women.

Appalling individual who cashes in and exploits the misery of others.

He clearly doesn't hate women. This is one of those MN tropes that simply isn't borne out by the facts.

WhenIWasAFieldMyself · 18/06/2023 18:13

Might be worth reading the thread about this vile human being and what he thinks about women before letting the word "decent" anywhere near him.
Poor children.
I expect he'll have a book deal lined up. God only knows what he'll have to say about the (literally) poor cunts he bought the babies from if what he says about his patients' cunts has been anything to go by.

RedToothBrush · 18/06/2023 18:14

Quiverer · 18/06/2023 18:12

He clearly doesn't hate women. This is one of those MN tropes that simply isn't borne out by the facts.

So it was a different Adam Kay that wrote those songs then?

Ok.

TheGander · 18/06/2023 18:14

DinaofCloud9 · 18/06/2023 17:50

He doesn't seem a decent sort at all. He's a vile misogynist.

That was my thoughts too, he seems to find women’s bodies a source of amusement or disgust.

Teder · 18/06/2023 18:15

I’m surprised he went down the surrogacy route given he left medicine due to witnessing trauma in obs and gynae. Perhaps he is suffering from selective amnesia.

RedToothBrush · 18/06/2023 18:16

WhenIWasAFieldMyself · 18/06/2023 18:13

Might be worth reading the thread about this vile human being and what he thinks about women before letting the word "decent" anywhere near him.
Poor children.
I expect he'll have a book deal lined up. God only knows what he'll have to say about the (literally) poor cunts he bought the babies from if what he says about his patients' cunts has been anything to go by.

Isnt that the crack?

Go get your baby by order

Then run off to the media to say how life changing it is (in a way that women who have their own babies don't get the same attention for)

Then sell your story / make more money off the back of your bought babies.

UnsolicitedOpinions · 18/06/2023 18:16

DinaofCloud9 · 18/06/2023 17:50

He doesn't seem a decent sort at all. He's a vile misogynist.

Agreed

cobicat · 18/06/2023 18:19

Didn't something similar happen to Caprice? Her surrogate was pregnant and then she got pregnant naturally so she had two boys a couple of months apart

DismantledKing · 18/06/2023 18:21

Nomorenonbinary · 18/06/2023 17:39

Surrogacy is people trafficking anyway.

Yep.

Tantaijin · 18/06/2023 18:23

Brokendaughter · 18/06/2023 17:52

They aren't parents.

Parents don't buy babies.

100% this.

Surrogacy is morally repugnant, in all forms.

TrashyPanda · 18/06/2023 18:24

another who thinks surrogacy is baby trafficking.

and Adam Kay seems misogynistic

littleripper · 18/06/2023 18:25

Twiglets1 · 18/06/2023 17:41

Good Luck to them I say. He seems a decent sort.

Adam's song about women from the North:

This is a national service announcement for all men
If you go to Bolton
If you go to Manchester
Or crewe
Newcastle, or Scarborough
York, or Scunthorp, Bradford, Barnsley too
Or Grimsby
Listen up to what we have to say
Northern birds are lazy ugly whores who smell of burgers
So don't have too much to drink
Or you might fuck one
And end up getting aids
There's nothing fun
To be found off the M1
Northern birds are lower class
Slags who take it up the arse
They're in the sack
After one cider and black
But they're fucking awful rides
and your dick won't touch the sides
Da-da-da-da-da-da
Da-da-da-da
Northern Birds
Da-da-da-da-da
If you really have to
Go up north then follow our advice
Fight away the women
Or you'll find yourself with Pubic lice
And herpes
Your much better staying in the South
Northern Birds
Are desperate ugly hippos dressed in Burberry
With a peanut for a brain
And an accent that makes you want to die
Now you've been warned
They're all physically deformed
Northern birds
Are all obese
And they're riddled with disease
Try to escape
Northern sex is worse than rape
Stay down south and mark my words
Stear well clear of northern birds
Northern birds
Northern birds

littleripper · 18/06/2023 18:28

Avondale89 · 18/06/2023 18:09

Surely finding it ”really disturbing” is over the top isn’t it?

Human trafficking and buying access to poor women's bodies is incredibly disturbing to me. Maybe have a think why you consider it ok?

Whichwhatnow · 18/06/2023 18:28

It's a case of two people acting utterly selfishly with no concern for the babies they've bought (let alone the surrogate mother).

MatildaTheCat · 18/06/2023 18:29

littleripper · 18/06/2023 18:25

Adam's song about women from the North:

This is a national service announcement for all men
If you go to Bolton
If you go to Manchester
Or crewe
Newcastle, or Scarborough
York, or Scunthorp, Bradford, Barnsley too
Or Grimsby
Listen up to what we have to say
Northern birds are lazy ugly whores who smell of burgers
So don't have too much to drink
Or you might fuck one
And end up getting aids
There's nothing fun
To be found off the M1
Northern birds are lower class
Slags who take it up the arse
They're in the sack
After one cider and black
But they're fucking awful rides
and your dick won't touch the sides
Da-da-da-da-da-da
Da-da-da-da
Northern Birds
Da-da-da-da-da
If you really have to
Go up north then follow our advice
Fight away the women
Or you'll find yourself with Pubic lice
And herpes
Your much better staying in the South
Northern Birds
Are desperate ugly hippos dressed in Burberry
With a peanut for a brain
And an accent that makes you want to die
Now you've been warned
They're all physically deformed
Northern birds
Are all obese
And they're riddled with disease
Try to escape
Northern sex is worse than rape
Stay down south and mark my words
Stear well clear of northern birds
Northern birds
Northern birds

How has he not been cancelled? I don’t understand at all. People have been totally vilified for far, far less. Nope, prime spot on DID.

Unbelievable.

OP posts:
TeaKlaxon · 18/06/2023 18:30

PTSDBarbiegirl · 18/06/2023 18:01

Just so very depressing to know that with all the research on trauma that anybody would commodity a tiny innocent baby. To introduce trauma into a newborn baby's brain and body knowing full well that despite the biological donor info the baby will be completely damaged the moment it is ripped from it's 'growing bag' and taken away from everything they know. Its disgusting and abusive of the most vulnerable human beings there are. Surrogacy is nothing but another way of cheapening women and babies lives to provide accessories for those who can't pursue safe conception. Safe for the woman and the baby.

FFS can you not describe a child who has been removed from their birth mother as ‘completely damaged’.

How callous can you be?

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