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To this is fucking dangerous and why we must get the Tories out?

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dontlookbackyourenotgoingthatway · 16/05/2023 09:37

This:

nationalconservatism.org/national-conservatism-a-statement-of-principles/

Look at the speakers;

nationalconservatism.org/natcon-uk-2023/

How can anybody who has studied any history whatsoever vote for this?

Are living in some kind of shit, TV movie about the fall of the UK?

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MargotBamborough · 17/05/2023 15:57

TooBigForMyBoots · 17/05/2023 15:57

I haven't missed any point @MargotBamborough. The Tories hate women. They've made it clear in the 13 years they've been in government and they've made it clear at the Nat-Con conference.

Why are you defending them?

I'm not defending them.

I'm asking why we don't have a non woman hating alternative.

Jonei · 17/05/2023 15:59

A non woman hating alternative would be fabulous.

SunnyEgg · 17/05/2023 16:02

MargotBamborough · 17/05/2023 15:57

I'm not defending them.

I'm asking why we don't have a non woman hating alternative.

Sadly it’s because Labour have been captured by gender ideology

Why it’s been picked up so readily at this time I’m not sure, but there’s other countries in same position. Those with a left party in power are an indication of where it’ll go

IClaudine · 17/05/2023 16:16

MargotBamborough · 17/05/2023 15:54

Is Rebecca Long-Bailey far right then? Because that's what she was sacked for.

Personally, I think RLB allowed her judgement to be clouded by her views on Israel. Which is deplorable and Starmer was right to sack her. Whether that means she is anti-semetic is a very thorny issue. But not every left wing politician is a bastion of non-prejudice, unfortunately. I am not one of those who denies there was ever any anti-semitism in the party.

Samphiredragonfly · 17/05/2023 16:16

@MargotBamborough do you know what cultural marxism is ? 😂
A decent thread once again derailed and most posters have given up. It's like arguing with a brick wall.
How can you debate when the other party cannot even accept that the Tories are genuinely in the wrong. Awaiting being accused of being sneery.....

SunnyEgg · 17/05/2023 16:21

Samphiredragonfly · 17/05/2023 16:16

@MargotBamborough do you know what cultural marxism is ? 😂
A decent thread once again derailed and most posters have given up. It's like arguing with a brick wall.
How can you debate when the other party cannot even accept that the Tories are genuinely in the wrong. Awaiting being accused of being sneery.....

I don’t think you know what sneering is as that’s a lame attempt there 😂

Did I even accuse you before I can’t remember. Getting fixated on posters seems more your bag.

Labour voters give a brick wall a good going with the oh don’t post I can’t stand other views waah

Fits right in with Starmer, Drakeford et al

Samphiredragonfly · 17/05/2023 16:25

@MargotBamborough https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_Marxism_conspiracy_theory
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/jan/19/cultural-marxism-a-uniting-theory-for-rightwingers-who-love-to-play-the-victim
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/13/opinion/cultural-marxism-anti-semitism.html
So cultural marxism isn't a left wing thing. You do know that ?
Awaiting most of the regulars from the FWR gender boards to come and save the day on a thread nothing to do with self ID or men in women's loos.

Cultural Marxism conspiracy theory - Wikipedia

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_Marxism_conspiracy_theory

Piggywaspushed · 17/05/2023 16:26

For those actually interested in what is being said, and by whom, I offer this thread. Thsi is not just about politicians . Many of these people are (apparently deplatformed) academics and/or write in the MSM. Their reach is wide and influential

https://twitter.com/karamballes/status/1658789426871296000

https://twitter.com/karamballes/status/1658789426871296000

Samphiredragonfly · 17/05/2023 16:28

Are you obsessed with Drakeford and Starmer ?
What's your opinion on cultural marxism anyway ? Most experts consider it semitic
anti semitic.

Samphiredragonfly · 17/05/2023 16:29

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MargotBamborough · 17/05/2023 16:31

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No, amazingly more than one person disagrees with you.

SunnyEgg · 17/05/2023 16:31

Samphiredragonfly · 17/05/2023 16:28

Are you obsessed with Drakeford and Starmer ?
What's your opinion on cultural marxism anyway ? Most experts consider it semitic
anti semitic.

Lol true they’re irrelevant.. I mean I wouldn’t mind.

I’ve not encountered the term before so others will have more up to date views

I do recall Labour struggling with anti semitism at the last GE though, which likely cost them a fair bit

jgw1 · 17/05/2023 16:32

MargotBamborough · 17/05/2023 14:31

Er, yes they were.

And Lisa Nandy will very likely be in the next government, so her view that vulnerable women should be locked up with male rapists is pretty alarming.

I for one am delighted to hear that when Labour become the government next year they are going to make the very necessary changes to ensure that rapists are locked up, which is something the current government are singularly failling to do.

Hobbi · 17/05/2023 16:32

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MargotBamborough · 17/05/2023 16:33

jgw1 · 17/05/2023 16:32

I for one am delighted to hear that when Labour become the government next year they are going to make the very necessary changes to ensure that rapists are locked up, which is something the current government are singularly failling to do.

How are they going to achieve that then?

jgw1 · 17/05/2023 16:34

IClaudine · 17/05/2023 15:17

I have no issue with people discussing women's rights and trans rights on a thread specifically about those issues. This thread is about the discomfort people feel about the presence of Tory ministers at a conference that a Tory MP was reprimanded for attending three years ago. Yet people are endlessly derailing.

Did you see the post that said that my asking about the topic of the OP was whataboutery.
I am particularly proud of that achievement.

Jonei · 17/05/2023 16:34

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Perfectly normal on MN. I also accuse many labour supporters of being sneery. Which they are .

MargotBamborough · 17/05/2023 16:35

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Initials?

I have literally no idea what you're talking about but tempted to report you all for troll hunting, especially given that I had a post deleted for calling someone an idiot.

Samphiredragonfly · 17/05/2023 16:35

@MargotBamborough you've not exactly disagreed with anything apart from whingeing on about the LP on a thread about the Tories...you haven't discussed the topic of National Conservatism which is the subject of the thread.

SunnyEgg · 17/05/2023 16:36

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Haha you’re on a roll with this stuff

Making me laugh

Oh no just saw the initials thing in next post. Report it to mn go ahead you weird stalkery bunch 😬

SunnyEgg · 17/05/2023 16:37

MargotBamborough · 17/05/2023 16:35

Initials?

I have literally no idea what you're talking about but tempted to report you all for troll hunting, especially given that I had a post deleted for calling someone an idiot.

Please do.

MargotBamborough · 17/05/2023 16:38

Samphiredragonfly · 17/05/2023 16:35

@MargotBamborough you've not exactly disagreed with anything apart from whingeing on about the LP on a thread about the Tories...you haven't discussed the topic of National Conservatism which is the subject of the thread.

The thread is about why we need to get the Tories out because they're a threat to women. It's entirely relevant to discuss what happens once we've got the Tories out, i.e. is the alternative better or worse.

SunnyEgg · 17/05/2023 16:42

Well there you go stalkery peeps the posts have been deleted

Bad form

jgw1 · 17/05/2023 16:45

MargotBamborough · 17/05/2023 16:33

How are they going to achieve that then?

I've no idea, but a previous poster clearly thinks they will. I am pleased that people have so much faith in the Labour party, it is good to know that the next government will be well supported.

OMG12 · 17/05/2023 16:50

Begsthequestion · 17/05/2023 14:47

I hope so. But it's a well financed and growing movement, with mainstream politicians on board.

It will appeal to certain people but apart from some public school boys as soon as they mention God most of those people will think fucking nutters. The people who like the God element will think evil racists.

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