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To this is fucking dangerous and why we must get the Tories out?

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dontlookbackyourenotgoingthatway · 16/05/2023 09:37

This:

nationalconservatism.org/national-conservatism-a-statement-of-principles/

Look at the speakers;

nationalconservatism.org/natcon-uk-2023/

How can anybody who has studied any history whatsoever vote for this?

Are living in some kind of shit, TV movie about the fall of the UK?

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SilentParrot · 16/05/2023 15:04

FuchsAndMöhr · 16/05/2023 14:56

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Stop being hysterical

🙄

American women were told to stop being hysterical when they expressed concern that Roe would be repealed. I’d say it’s unlikely abortion would be made illegal in the UK, but it's never a good idea to get complacent.

EmmaEmerald · 16/05/2023 15:08

FuchsAndMöhr · 16/05/2023 14:56

🤣

Stop being hysterical

🙄

Um...
America?

Alargeoneplease89 · 16/05/2023 15:09

Wow you must be embarrassed at getting that mixed up 😆

TooBigForMyBoots · 16/05/2023 15:22

Abortion rights in the UK have been under attack from US style psychos for a while. We must be vigilant.

ShimmeringShirts · 16/05/2023 15:29

Why is this relevant to the Tory party? It’s not got anything to do with them as far as I can see. It frequently references America and America and The Western World. It has jack shit to do with British politics.

TooBigForMyBoots · 16/05/2023 15:46

ShimmeringShirts · 16/05/2023 15:29

Why is this relevant to the Tory party? It’s not got anything to do with them as far as I can see. It frequently references America and America and The Western World. It has jack shit to do with British politics.

The amount of Tory ministers, Ex ministers and MPs speaking at the event.

HTH

dontlookbackyourenotgoingthatway · 16/05/2023 15:51

@FuchsAndMöhr

Stop being hysterical?

Was that meant to be ironic?

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dontlookbackyourenotgoingthatway · 16/05/2023 15:55

ShimmeringShirts · 16/05/2023 15:29

Why is this relevant to the Tory party? It’s not got anything to do with them as far as I can see. It frequently references America and America and The Western World. It has jack shit to do with British politics.

Do you know who Suella Braverman and Lee Anderson are???

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Fladdermus · 16/05/2023 16:01

Didn't one of the speakers say that the fact Germany 'mucked it up twice' when they tried nationalism shouldn't put Britain off.

Irequireausername · 16/05/2023 16:04

TooBigForMyBoots · 16/05/2023 15:22

Abortion rights in the UK have been under attack from US style psychos for a while. We must be vigilant.

Which countries do they target or is it every country?

sonearly · 16/05/2023 16:05

dontlookbackyourenotgoingthatway · 16/05/2023 09:37

This:

nationalconservatism.org/national-conservatism-a-statement-of-principles/

Look at the speakers;

nationalconservatism.org/natcon-uk-2023/

How can anybody who has studied any history whatsoever vote for this?

Are living in some kind of shit, TV movie about the fall of the UK?

Seems pretty America focused tbh.

Nothing in it is all that bad, though. I'm bo moral fundamentalist but we could certainly we could do with peacefully balancing back the other way a bit on the moral axis because things are really off-kilter and there are too many flat-out evil things being framed as virtues for society to go in a healthy direction. Harming children isn't OK, being violently racist isn't OK, and so on.

x2boys · 16/05/2023 16:06

Nobody is going o.be banning abortion certainly not he conservative party We are not America

cooliebrown · 16/05/2023 16:12

those posters saying this is nothing to do with the Conservative Party should take note that our Home Secretary was the key-note speaker yesterday, giving a speech approved by Rishi Sunak. Also speaking were Jacob Rees-Mogg, amongst other senior Conservative MPs, as well as cabinet minister Michael Gove today.

Hobbi · 16/05/2023 16:15

x2boys · 16/05/2023 16:06

Nobody is going o.be banning abortion certainly not he conservative party We are not America

You're probably right. They also won't significantly reduce your right to protest, try and introduce restrictions on voting, change electoral boundaries, savage workers rights, deport successful asylum seekers to a dictatorship, run down social care as a torpedo in the side of the NHS, oversee the de facto privatisation of education and jeopardise peace in Northern Ireland. Only when those things happen might I believe they'll think about hard earned women's rights.

TooBigForMyBoots · 16/05/2023 16:16

x2boys · 16/05/2023 16:06

Nobody is going o.be banning abortion certainly not he conservative party We are not America

I thought that about Tories putting male rapists in women's prisons, but here we are.🤷‍♀️

Summerhillsquare · 16/05/2023 16:21

A shame to see Mary Harrington and Nina Power there. I thought they'd think twice. Knew Louise Perry wouldn't!

RafaistheKingofClay · 16/05/2023 16:31

shropshire11 · 16/05/2023 14:53

There’s a more provocative fringe to every political movement. Unless they are advocating some kind of extreme ideology or race hate, then part of living in a civilised society is accepting others have their own points of view - and recognising that fringe opinions are just that - fringe opinions. In short, try to grow up.

Nationalism and alt right anti Semitism is their bag. Other form of racism are also acceptable.

The bloody Home Secretary is there stirring up hate and nationalism as well as Miriam Cates using anti Semitic terminology in her speech and advocating less education for girls so they can do their duty and produce more white babies. Not to mention JRM openly admitting to deliberately suppressing votes.

I don’t see this being allowed to hove happened even a few years ago without it making the front pages. And their party leader seems to be AWOL. Labour would get slaughtered for this. No way la out gets out of this without apology for a ‘massive error of judgement’ and the whip being removed from a number of MPs.

Fortunately it may just be the death throes of the Conservative Party and they are going out with a bang.

dontlookbackyourenotgoingthatway · 16/05/2023 16:45

shropshire11 · 16/05/2023 14:53

There’s a more provocative fringe to every political movement. Unless they are advocating some kind of extreme ideology or race hate, then part of living in a civilised society is accepting others have their own points of view - and recognising that fringe opinions are just that - fringe opinions. In short, try to grow up.

The Home Secretary of the United Kingdom is not the political fringe

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TooBigForMyBoots · 16/05/2023 16:48

Sunak has zero control over his party. See also the Conservative Democratic Organisation (Bring Back Boris) conference that happened at the weekend.

The Tories are a shambolic, chaotic mess and I can't wait until they're binned.

Conkersinautumn · 16/05/2023 16:56

Tories are always keen to play to impress the US so it's inevitable they'll continue to sell healthcare to US based interests and remove women's access to reproductive health.

But this is apparently what the voting population want as they keep voting for them thank god the cons have shot themselves in the foot by attempting to control votes. They're quite open in admitting their attempt with voter ID has failed and now their usual voters are more likely to be excluded from voting.

Hopefully they won't figure out a fix before a general election.

FuckNuggets · 16/05/2023 16:58

SilentParrot · 16/05/2023 15:04

American women were told to stop being hysterical when they expressed concern that Roe would be repealed. I’d say it’s unlikely abortion would be made illegal in the UK, but it's never a good idea to get complacent.

It does feel like women's rights are going backwards in the Western world. We've had it good for around 50-60 years, now the patriarchal shits have decided they don't like women having a choice in our own lives and they'll slowly slowly take them all away again.

FuckNuggets · 16/05/2023 16:59

ShimmeringShirts · 16/05/2023 15:29

Why is this relevant to the Tory party? It’s not got anything to do with them as far as I can see. It frequently references America and America and The Western World. It has jack shit to do with British politics.

Jacob Rees-Mogg must be in his element with this lot then.

wildfirewonder · 16/05/2023 17:00

ShimmeringShirts · 16/05/2023 15:29

Why is this relevant to the Tory party? It’s not got anything to do with them as far as I can see. It frequently references America and America and The Western World. It has jack shit to do with British politics.

Confused Did you miss the fact that lots of Tory MPs including Ministers are speaking there?

SunnyEgg · 16/05/2023 17:01

Conkersinautumn · 16/05/2023 16:56

Tories are always keen to play to impress the US so it's inevitable they'll continue to sell healthcare to US based interests and remove women's access to reproductive health.

But this is apparently what the voting population want as they keep voting for them thank god the cons have shot themselves in the foot by attempting to control votes. They're quite open in admitting their attempt with voter ID has failed and now their usual voters are more likely to be excluded from voting.

Hopefully they won't figure out a fix before a general election.

Tories are always keen to play to impress the US

Why do you say the Tories want to impress the US

Do you recall how close Blair was to the US at the time of the illegal war and preceding it?

I heard a good quote from him on this about being best friends who you do anything for when the going gets tough

Maybe Starmer is more EU focussed, who knows, but historically Labour have been very close to US by choice

YukoandHiro · 16/05/2023 17:01

JenniferBooth · 16/05/2023 14:44

They spent decades telling us ( i live in social housing) not to have kids unless we can afford them. And now they are whining when the reckoning has to be paid.

Well said

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