To be upset that toddlers and babies are being subjected to this.

[flashbac]

This is abuse. What kind of parent takes their baby to a show like this?

Apparently these have been deep faked so they're not actually real.

No they haven't. Read the thread.

Of course they're real. The performers have defended them and don't see anything wrong with these shows.

You think I am the mad one?

For thinking it’s abhorrent to expose children to sexual content that would frighten and confuse them?

Okay then. Think what you like about me but at least my child isn’t being placed in abusive situations.

Yes. The organisers are quite open about it all. It seems to be another group on the internet frantically trying to spread false news about don't look, don't think, stop talking about it, it's not real, it didn't happen.

Can't think why they'd be so worried or invested. It's a puzzle.

😂

Not this old chestnut again!

I wish they were fake.

Sadly, they are all real.

Here’s the same at drag queen different venue (Halloween themed event at Big Penny Social)

Drag queen’s stage name is ‘Lucinda B Hind’.

Viral video was filmed at Patchworks in Leyton.

'I personally want to promote self expression and body confidence and tolerance of personal choices with my children. Not that my toddler would prob even notice it was a man dressed in feminine clothes. None of those kids seem phased or upset.'

There are millions of ways to promote self expression and body confidence that don't involve watching blokes dancing around in thongs.

And no your toddler wouldn't notice. A young child probably wouldn't be upset if you put on the worst pornhub has to offer, they'd just watch it. But of course that would be child abuse. Exposing a child to sexual material is child abuse, whether they look upset or not.

'I personally want to promote self expression and body confidence and tolerance of personal choices with my children.’

And surely seeing adults in sexualised performances is not the way to do this. Doing activities where they develop confidence in their own bodies would do this. Even doing Grand old Duke of York actions and baby swimming or gymbaree or just a soft play centre works. Or a circus!

Why a sexualised performance?

Or is the aim trying to teach a toddler that sexualised performance is appropriate for all ages.

Ask yourself this if someone was going to go to the trouble to spend time making a deep fake video would they really choose scummy mummies, babies and a guy swinging from the rafters (confirmed in the newspapers as actually being the person in the video with the mummies and the babies, by his father!) ?

*There are millions of ways to promote self expression and body confidence that don't involve watching blokes dancing around in thongs.

And no your toddler wouldn't notice. A young child probably wouldn't be upset if you put on the worst pornhub has to offer, they'd just watch it. But of course that would be child abuse. Exposing a child to sexual material is child abuse, whether they look upset or not.*

Exactly this. Using that poster's reasoning why not go all the way and show toddlers hard core porn? Oh wait........ 👀

Quite. It is not the child's self expression that is being centred here. It's the parent's.

Yes. It is a very long reach to use this as a resource to ”promote self expression and body confidence and tolerance of personal choices”.

In fact, that sounds like a blurb from a LGBTQ + website where some very long strings have been very loosely pulled together in an attempt to make sexualised material seem educational. With particular focus on the ‘personal choices’.

Almost like trying to retrofit a harmful political agenda where adults have completely lost sight of safeguarding and are actively trying to cover over major lapses of judgement. They are doing this by using the language that you would see in risk assessment or an educational course outline to portray it as suitable.

While ignoring the elephant in the room, this time dressed in a BDSM harness. (And no, I am not calling any performer an elephant, I am dressing the elephant in the same gear though!)

Writing the words “promote self expression and body confidence and tolerance of personal choices” doesn’t make this activity any more fit for purpose compared to a taking a child to a strip club, or a burlesque club. It is a sure sign that some adults have much lower sexual boundaries and feel children should too.

I wonder if this is for real:

www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/4757942-i-took-my-child-to-a-caba-baba-rave-ama

The OP is claiming that QT is a ridiculous Conspiracy Theory. I'm not really knowledgeable enough about it to argue the point. If someone who is wants to explain why it isn't on there it might be good.

Idk what the official theory is but I know I'm a parent sick of being gaslit about what I can and can't say and should and shouldn't be okay with for my child

Dress something up with labels you're not allowed to do anything but applaud and anything goes and try to point it out- it's hate speech and bigotry (instead of just being a regular mother with a brain)

Not read through all the comments so not sure if already been mentioned but on Anna board there’s a lady answering questions who actually attended this

If Burlesque is not sexual at all, are there burlesque classes for children?

Would OP let their child do burlesque classes?

The poster that actually took her baby to this monstrosity would probably allow her baby to take pole dancing classes in a strip club and call it "educational"

AMA board sorry not Anna typo! 🤦🏻‍♀️

A pub local to me is hosting a DQST this weekend and have put out a rallying cry on the local forum to local residents to come and defend them against TPUK. The thread is rammed full of every transphobe, homophobe, fascist, nazi, bigot insult you can imagine aimed at anyone who says "well, actually, hang on a minute, I don't want to defend DQST".

I honestly feel utterly depressed about it. I can't stand that this important issue has been hijacked by a hideous far right group and now we are all guilty by association. Hands feel tied!

Do you know how people get away with crimes? They walk away from the crime scene and never breathe a word of what happened to anyone ever. It’s the idiots who make excuses for why it wasn’t them who get caught.

This individual has done the crime, and the best thing she can do for herself now is go away and shut up about it. No one is interested in her excuses about why she failed to to safeguard her child by involving the child as an accessory to an event in which adults were sexually aroused.

That op is as sick as the others defending this.

I absolute despair for the world our kids are growing up in.

LindorDoubleChoc· Today 14:58
A pub local to me is hosting a DQST this weekend and have put out a rallying cry on the local forum to local residents to come and defend them against TPUK. The thread is rammed full of every transphobe, homophobe, fascist, nazi, bigot insult you can imagine aimed at anyone who says "well, actually, hang on a minute, I don't want to defend DQST".

I honestly feel utterly depressed about it. I can't stand that this important issue has been hijacked by a hideous far right group and now we are all guilty by association. Hands feel tied

Yes, it is ridiculous and awful. Why not quitetly attend with a baby doll wrapped up ‘asleep’, then get the evidence of the reality?

Is anybody else completely mystified as to why none of the "It's a FAKE!" crew have turned up to scold that OP? 🧐

Its been deleted now

the thread i mean

So annoying.

I put shit loads of effort into that thread!