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To be worried about Russia's retaliations on the West?

298 replies

fedupfufu · 21/02/2023 20:16

There was an LBC listener who called in and said that Russia will nuke the UK first as retaliation for giving Ukraine fighter jets. It wasn't too long ago that fighter jets were considered off the table by the US and the UK. There were also two people on an episode of Joe Rogan's podcast discussing this. The powers that be just seem intent on bringing us closer to nuclear Armageddon. Sometimes it seems like nobody will do anything until it's too late.

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vodkaredbullgirl · 21/02/2023 20:17

It's not going to happen.

noblegiraffe · 21/02/2023 20:19

They've been saying they'll nuke London since the start of all this. They haven't so far.

Aposterhasnoname · 21/02/2023 20:19

Sure, he’s going to nuke us. Just like he did the other 365 times in the last year that he’s threatened it.

watchfulwishes · 21/02/2023 20:20

I thought UK had not given any jets?

malmi · 21/02/2023 20:21

They won't use nukes because it would trigger their own annihilation. They would only do it as a last resort if they felt their own existence was under threat. Whilst they may pretend this for propaganda purposes, they know that it's not actually true. Russia will not actually be invaded by the US, Ukraine, or anyone else.

stbrandonsboat · 21/02/2023 20:23

Not this again 🙄

Go and have a cheeky vodka and orange and a lie down.

fluffyoverlord · 21/02/2023 20:24

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Couldyounot · 21/02/2023 20:24

There was a drivelling eejit who called in to LBC and said a load of scaremongering drivel which shows where you end up if you treat Russian state дезинформация as fact

There you go. Fixed it.

JesPrinee · 21/02/2023 20:24

malmi · 21/02/2023 20:21

They won't use nukes because it would trigger their own annihilation. They would only do it as a last resort if they felt their own existence was under threat. Whilst they may pretend this for propaganda purposes, they know that it's not actually true. Russia will not actually be invaded by the US, Ukraine, or anyone else.

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User174863988 · 21/02/2023 20:28

A radio listener called in so you are worrying what some random said

noblegiraffe · 21/02/2023 20:28

Zelensky is a mega grifter and it's totally shameful how he's begging the rest of the world for help and drawing us all into WWIII

He's a grifter begging the world for help after his country was illegally invaded and his people are being killed, including civilians and children? Do you think he should just hand the country over to Russia even though the Ukrainians don't want it?

flutterbyebaby · 21/02/2023 20:40

If Putin had the capability he would have used it by now.

SpudleyLass · 21/02/2023 20:52

I must admit I was a bit antsy at the beginning of the war but honestly, if Putin was going to do it, he would have done it by now.

If it helps, he cannot unilaterally decide to jus push the button. There are others who have to agree to it.

Putin wants to restore the ''glory days'' of the Soviet bloc and if he nukes anybody, he will be getting 10x more in response. No more Russia.

Save from the occasional headline that I happen to see each morning, I no longer read the articles about the Ukraine war to preserve my sanity.

ZiriForEver · 21/02/2023 20:58

Welcome to the club :)
Warsaw, Baltic countries, Prague, base Ramstein in Germany, ... we are all on the list and closer. Not mentioning Kyiv/Lviv.

Every week someone crosses some "uncrossable line". That is the doctrine for dealing with potentially nuclear madman. Cross the red lines one by one and take turns.
Maybe some smaller country will send one or two jets first, even if in "spare parts" mode, so the line technically would have been crossed before UK get to it.

EddyF · 21/02/2023 21:02

You people are going to learn. Keep pushing people into a corner who have THEN have nothing to lose…

Your government has failed you into a false sense of reality/entitlement.

VeniVidiWeeWee · 21/02/2023 21:05

EddyF · 21/02/2023 21:02

You people are going to learn. Keep pushing people into a corner who have THEN have nothing to lose…

Your government has failed you into a false sense of reality/entitlement.

What, you mean like the Ukrainians?

itwasntmetho · 21/02/2023 21:05

Let's face it, Putin's invasion was wrong, but it's not like Ukraine and Zelensky are innocent little victims. They totally failed to handle the rather large separatist regions of predominantly Russian ethnicity and have been making them suffer since 2014, and also failed to uphold the Minsk 2 agreements.

🤐you have to ignore that. Man of the Year now.

FrostyFifi · 21/02/2023 21:07

This again?!
At least if we're nuked we won't have the same thread every few months.

PolicyOfTruth · 21/02/2023 21:09

Putin is not a complete idiot. If he launched nukes - assuming they still worked with the way their equipment has been shown to be wanting in the Ukraine - then Russia would cease to exist afterwards due to the retaliation.

So nuclear is not going to happen (I remember we all worried about this far more in the 80s) and conventionally his army can't even defeat the Ukraine. They would be decimated by NATO. He's saber rattling as he's aware he's old and dying and he wants to secure his "legacy" before he pops his clogs. He cocked that up and is unable to admit it.

Stop listening to news about it. It won't happen, but if it did, the first and last thing you'll know will be a blinding flash which you'd not have time to worry about. I've stopped reading the media as it's just aimed at scaring us.

vodkaredbullgirl · 21/02/2023 21:09

EddyF · 21/02/2023 21:02

You people are going to learn. Keep pushing people into a corner who have THEN have nothing to lose…

Your government has failed you into a false sense of reality/entitlement.

😶

Igotjelly · 21/02/2023 21:11

Fuck sakes man not this again.

Trexer · 21/02/2023 21:12

What's that? Putin chatting shit again?
@stbrandonsboat has the right idea.

headstone · 21/02/2023 21:14

I would much prefer it if we didn’t try and escalate things. Crackpot Truss and Boris are very keen for this. Why anyone would want to escalate this war I’ve no idea.

Igotjelly · 21/02/2023 21:19

No one is escalating this war except Putin. He and he alone are responsible for this.

Igotjelly · 21/02/2023 21:20

headstone · 21/02/2023 21:14

I would much prefer it if we didn’t try and escalate things. Crackpot Truss and Boris are very keen for this. Why anyone would want to escalate this war I’ve no idea.

What’s your alternative? That we just let the Russians ride roughshod over Ukraine (and fuck knows where else) raping and pillaging as they do. I’m all for peace but not at any cost.