To be worried about Russia's retaliations on the West?

[fedupfufu]

There was an LBC listener who called in and said that Russia will nuke the UK first as retaliation for giving Ukraine fighter jets. It wasn't too long ago that fighter jets were considered off the table by the US and the UK. There were also two people on an episode of Joe Rogan's podcast discussing this. The powers that be just seem intent on bringing us closer to nuclear Armageddon. Sometimes it seems like nobody will do anything until it's too late.

As with history, we may not know all the details of what's what,

Well, what do you propose? Years of this?

i agreee with another bloke who was on LBC. We need to support countries like Poland who can send the type of aircraft the Ukrainians can use AND maintain. Our much newer ones will just end up in a heap. Maybe the solution is to replace the ones Poland etc guve ukraine with newer ones?

We need more ££££££ though.

Ha ha, loved the buttaahh! advert

Exactly. Yawn.

How thick do they think we are?

It’s like they’ve got Cheech and Chong on the keyboards, trying to pull the wool over our eyes.

3/10 boys. My 15 year old could do a more convincing job as an English lit crit exercise.

@ReedRite best comment of the thread! Thank you for the laugh 🙂

There's a very good chance they are Russian, @Whammyyammy

www.gov.uk/government/news/uk-exposes-sick-russian-troll-factory-plaguing-social-media-with-kremlin-propaganda

"UK-funded expert research has exposed how the Kremlin is using a troll factory to spread lies on social media and in comment sections of popular website" (my bold)

There's Twitter and Tiktok mass disinformation and propaganda too

www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-02-09/tiktok-reveals-russian-disinfo-network-targeting-european-users#xj4y7vzkg

TikTok Inc. identified a Russian disinformation network spreading war propaganda about Ukraine to more than a hundred thousand European users over the summer, the company disclosed on Thursday.

The network operated in Russia, but targeted mostly people in Germany, Italy and the UK in their respective languages.

and what's really, really, really worrying:

"According to the Intelligence and Security Committee Russia report, released on 21 July 2020, there is substantial evidence that Russian interference in the British economy and politics is commonplace"
(en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_interference_in_British_politics)

There's ways to tell: stock phrases and words that paid Russian propaganda-pushers use, plus a pile of stuff on how awful Zelenskyy is, how terrible and corrupt Ukraine is, how Ukraine never upheld the Minsk agreement (while not acknowledging that Russian never intended to in the first place, as it recently admitted; in fact neither side did, seeing that it rewarded Russia's illegal invasion of Crimea) .. and a pile of other stuff.

Paid propagandists never give a genuine, balanced picture and they consistently provide misinformation eg they go on about Ukraine attacking Donbas (its own region!) without saying that Russia actively encouraged and armed people in the Donbas and told them to attack pro-Ukraine people. The examples go on.

😂😉

Nah, it’s those numpties who are the funniest!

You listen to Joe Rogan. ‘Nuff said.

Anyone watch TraumaZone on BBC. Reminded me of stuff I had forgotten about Russia 1985 - 1999. I kinda understood a bit more of what's going on now.

No answers but helps a bit with context.

Also on BBC iplayer is Putin v the West

a must watch, especially for all the bingo callers with their Putin talking points

@fluffyoverlord you have got to be joking. Either that, or monstrously callous and/or ignorant. Any (brief) accuracy or relevance in your post is lost in the overall distorted and hyperbolic tone.

Russians are murdering Ukrainians. In Ukraine

Ukrainians - and the west - are not murdering Russians in Russia

Personally I think those that "both side" a terrorist state committing genocide are not the brightest.

I'm so glad there's some people who can see how bad the West's response is <3

@fluffyoverlord are these people your colleagues or sock puppets? There are no two sides to this story. Putin can just get the F--- out of Ukraine and the war will be over.

Is it 'We' or 'They'? Oi, get your pronouns right.

It is understandable you have to read my first sentence three times (<3?) to understand it if English is not your first language.

Your word salad makes my head hurt though. Feels like ChatGPT. I must give it a go.

PS you are wrong.

Interchangeable though.

Hey @fluffyoverlord You've forgotten to mention "shelling the Donbas for 8 years"

I'm one away from a full house.

The ice age is coming, the sun's zooming in, a nuclear terror but I have no fear... London is drowning and I live by the river.