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Men in women’s spaces

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BrightSaturn · 30/12/2022 02:22

Just using this to rant really…

2 times in the past month I have encountered men in women only spaces.

  1. I went to a feeding room to breastfeed my daughter in a shopping centre. I walked in and there were two young women in there changing their babies and one of their boyfriends just taking up one of the only chairs just sitting there, sitting using his phone. It’s a small room with 3 chairs in. I didn’t know what to do so I thought I’ll just sit down and get ready slowly and hopefully they’ll leave. I have fed in public but this was a small room so I felt vulnerable and like he shouldn’t be there and I didn’t want to lift my top up whilst he was sitting basically opposite me so I eventually asked if he could leave the room, they looked annoyed but thankfully he did go, after she looked at him and said “it’s up to you”…
  2. I went into a changing room in a shop the other day with my mum, imagine a big room with seats in the middle and curtained dividers all round the outside. My mum was only trying on cardigans so really she just needed a mirror but in the middle on a seat was a boy about 17/18 years old. His girlfriend was trying on clothes. I couldn’t believe it! It wasn’t even doors on the changing rooms, just curtains. Why he thought this was acceptable I have no idea. Again I felt vulnerable and this time I didn’t have the confidence to ask him to leave. If my mum had been actually changing I would have probably found a shop assistant but still it’s not fair that we have to ask them to leave, he should not have been there in the first place!

aibu to think women’s spaces are being invaded more and more? How can we stop this from happening?

OP posts:
IAmWomanHearMeRoar1 · 30/12/2022 20:44

orchid220 · 30/12/2022 20:39

I'm not "misinformed". I am talking from experience as a women who used the rooms in the 90s and early 2000s. They never stated that they were women only.

So you went to every place then? Because you stated categorically that the feeding rooms have never been women only spaces.

Because multiple women on here have testified they were. Many of us.

CoralreefBex · 30/12/2022 20:45

IAmWomanHearMeRoar1 · 30/12/2022 20:44

So you went to every place then? Because you stated categorically that the feeding rooms have never been women only spaces.

Because multiple women on here have testified they were. Many of us.

This is ironic considering you’re the person claiming all feeding rooms were once mothers rooms.

You haven’t been to every place yet can claim that

IAmWomanHearMeRoar1 · 30/12/2022 20:46

CoralreefBex · 30/12/2022 20:45

This is ironic considering you’re the person claiming all feeding rooms were once mothers rooms.

You haven’t been to every place yet can claim that

Yet the premise of BREASTfeeding rooms was for.... women. This is a fact.

It's also interesting, as I again note, you only just registered and came straight to this thread.

Willowswood · 30/12/2022 20:46

@CoralreefBex I'm not laughing at women, or breastfeeding, I'm laughing at you and your views. What you said made me laugh out loud, as I quite clearly explained.

user1483646497 · 30/12/2022 20:46

My DH is very knowledgeable about lactation also; he's a very hands-on parent and is a feminist - this is precisely why he would never enter a feeding room as he's hyper-aware of situations in which he could make women feel uncomfortable. He knows he's not a threat but THEY don't know that.

Willowswood · 30/12/2022 20:47

@CoralreefBex Yes please do enlighten us as you have chosen to ignore the point raised by a few other posters, that you only just registered and came straight to this thread... bit odd?

Willowswood · 30/12/2022 20:47

user1483646497 · 30/12/2022 20:46

My DH is very knowledgeable about lactation also; he's a very hands-on parent and is a feminist - this is precisely why he would never enter a feeding room as he's hyper-aware of situations in which he could make women feel uncomfortable. He knows he's not a threat but THEY don't know that.

Excellent point 👍🏼

Blackandwhites · 30/12/2022 20:48

I feel really strongly that men don’t belong in women only spaces - it’s an important issue - but I think we are d

Blackandwhites · 30/12/2022 20:48

downgrading This argument when we say that men don’t belong in mixed sex areas such as parenting room. Pick your battles.

Mentalpiece · 30/12/2022 20:50

CoralreefBex · 30/12/2022 20:43

Laughing at women who need help BF is pretty gross, also as PP said health visitors and other professionals actively encourage partners to be involved with BF as its proven to improve long term feeding rates.

She's not laughing at that, as you know. She's laughing at the scenario you presented.
Women have been breastfeeding since forever successfully with no input from men.
Which comes back to my original question of what do they do when their man isn't around? They get on with it of course.
No decent man would want to be anywhere which may make a woman uncomfortable or embarrassed, whether his partner wants him there or not.

CoralreefBex · 30/12/2022 20:51

Willowswood · 30/12/2022 20:46

@CoralreefBex I'm not laughing at women, or breastfeeding, I'm laughing at you and your views. What you said made me laugh out loud, as I quite clearly explained.

It’s not me and my views

Or are you claiming HVs don’t actively encourage men to be part of BF journeys

BigMama32 · 30/12/2022 20:52

Wheres OP in all this? I reckon we’ve worn out her notifications and she’s silenced us whoops 😬

CoralreefBex · 30/12/2022 20:52

Willowswood · 30/12/2022 20:47

@CoralreefBex Yes please do enlighten us as you have chosen to ignore the point raised by a few other posters, that you only just registered and came straight to this thread... bit odd?

You are aware people NC right?

many posters do so regularly.

why don’t you enlighten us on why you think HV and other professionals are wrong for encouraging men to be part of BF, as it’s been shown to improve long term success rates

CoralreefBex · 30/12/2022 20:53

IAmWomanHearMeRoar1 · 30/12/2022 20:46

Yet the premise of BREASTfeeding rooms was for.... women. This is a fact.

It's also interesting, as I again note, you only just registered and came straight to this thread.

But this isn’t a breast feeding room, as has been explained to you multiple times.

Willowswood · 30/12/2022 20:54

@Mentalpiece Thankyou,that's absolutely right.

@CoralreefBex Stop trying to gaslight me, it's not working.

IAmWomanHearMeRoar1 · 30/12/2022 20:54

CoralreefBex · 30/12/2022 20:52

You are aware people NC right?

many posters do so regularly.

why don’t you enlighten us on why you think HV and other professionals are wrong for encouraging men to be part of BF, as it’s been shown to improve long term success rates

NC to post on this thread, and on a trans thread. Very suspicious.

Willowswood · 30/12/2022 20:54

BigMama32 · 30/12/2022 20:52

Wheres OP in all this? I reckon we’ve worn out her notifications and she’s silenced us whoops 😬

Oops yes!

IAmWomanHearMeRoar1 · 30/12/2022 20:54

CoralreefBex · 30/12/2022 20:53

But this isn’t a breast feeding room, as has been explained to you multiple times.

As has been explained repeatedly, these WERE originally breastfeeding rooms. That they are no longer, doesn't erase that fact.

CoralreefBex · 30/12/2022 20:55

IAmWomanHearMeRoar1 · 30/12/2022 20:54

NC to post on this thread, and on a trans thread. Very suspicious.

What trans thread?

Ive also posted on a thread about over protective parents and one in property tonight.

It’s a conspiracy

Willowswood · 30/12/2022 20:55

Yes, NC in order to post here and on a trans thread, very suspicious indeed!!

CoralreefBex · 30/12/2022 20:55

IAmWomanHearMeRoar1 · 30/12/2022 20:54

As has been explained repeatedly, these WERE originally breastfeeding rooms. That they are no longer, doesn't erase that fact.

And as has been explained to you before, you don’t know this one was originally a BF room. You don’t know the centre the OP went to. Jesus wept

CoralreefBex · 30/12/2022 20:56

Willowswood · 30/12/2022 20:55

Yes, NC in order to post here and on a trans thread, very suspicious indeed!!

NC to also post on the property topic and about an overprotective parent,

Hardly a massive conspiracy. Some of you need to get out more

Willowswood · 30/12/2022 20:56

Ooh! We've touched a nerve! Lol 😂

CoralreefBex · 30/12/2022 20:56

Willowswood · 30/12/2022 20:54

@Mentalpiece Thankyou,that's absolutely right.

@CoralreefBex Stop trying to gaslight me, it's not working.

You don’t seem to understand the word gaslighting, not surprising considering your other posts, but still a little odd.

Willowswood · 30/12/2022 20:57

@CoralreefBex you so t seem to understand a lot of things either, and that's not surprising considering the other posts you have commented on too.