To think secondary school rules are harsh and missing the point

[craxyrulebraker]

DS has just started secondary I just think it is all too much and the focus is all wrong.

You have to ask to take your blazer or jumper off
warning about the 'wrong' type of PE shorts, etc
Not allowed to drink water in lessons
Cautions for forgotten kit
Detentions for homework not complete - even when its not clear who/how to hand it in

Meanwhile very little nurture or pastrol care; poor communication so children don't know what is always expected of them, but scared they will get a detention; hardly any SEN support; very little staff presence at break/lunch times or in corridors; problems with bullying. Schools can't do these basics but tell the kids off for wearing the 'wrong' grey trousers!!

But your opinion is on something that only exists in your head. I could have an opinion that the sky is green, it doesn’t make it true.

And that's why people have no respect for teachers. My comprehension is perfectly fine, it must be since I have an A in both english GCSEs, according to you lot.

But it's all in my head, remember? So actually you clearly think my understanding is very good, don't you? It must be, it's been assessed.

Exactly!!!!! You’re dangerously close to an epiphany here…..

No concrete examples then?

Yes, maybe about teachers... Not sure it's had any impact on what I think of exams to be honest.

Well my biological dad is one but considering you don't know him I don't know how helpful that is to you!

So you don’t think you deserved your As?

I have no idea, why don't you tell me? I'm clearly thick as fuck and you are the expert considering you're an actual real life teacher which means you obviously know everything there is to know about it.

I mean, I definitely know more about teaching and the curriculum than you - that’s not an opinion either, that’s a fact. You know more about your job than me too, and I managed to say that without telling you about how much I don’t respect it.

Sorry, where have I said I don't respect teachers? What was it about comprehension skills?

I'm sure you do. I'm sure it helps you sleep at night. I'm sure the kids who are massively stressed and anxious about exams are really, really glad they're a thing and very happy you're defending their existence on the internet by belittling others.

I used my comprehension skills on this post here!

I definitely sleep better at night knowing I know how to teach and what the curriculum involves and how to assess progress.

What did I say about teachers? I've had an epiphany? But you don't know what it was, whether it was positive or negative or whether I respect them or not because that post literally doesn't say any of those things, does it?

Well done you. Gold star 🌟

So, I reached that conclusion based on your previous posts about how little respect teachers get. Are you saying you actually meant something positive by those little snipes? What was your epiphany about teachers?

Well, they do don't they, but that's my opinion that only exists in my head so, it doesn't matter to you. It's just unsurprising based on this thread, that's all.

My epiphany was simply a change in my opinion, but as we've established, because I'm not a teacher my opinion doesn't matter so I won't bother you with something that only exists in my head. You're far too superior for that.

Ah well. At least you’ve stopped spouting off about the curriculum content and exam purpose anyway.

Only because you're too closed minded and intolerant to have a discussion. It's a shame really that our children will learn that's totally okay.

But you wouldn’t tell me what you considered useful for our children. You didn’t want that conversation, you wanted to have a go. You’re still doing it.

No, I did want to have that conversation, but not with someone who thinks anyone with a differing opinion to them is thick. I didn't want to have a go, I had no reason to have a go, until you started with the personal attacks.

If anything, I think you wanted to have a go, belittle someone, make yourself feel better, I don't know. I was open to your opinion but clearly you can't say the same. Why would I justify myself to someone who is only going to call me thick anyway, there's literally no point.

I went to a school where a new headteacher came in. After a few years, he was so proud of how he'd turned around uniform standards in the school and made uniform rules much more strict. He'd go on about how proud he was that his students looked so much smarter than the other local schools' students. It was all he'd bloody talk about.

Then ofsted came in - the school was rated inadequate and promptly went down the swanny.

No, I’m really, really interested - what useful things should we be teaching?

No, I don't think you are. I'm not going to waste my time justifying my opinion, to someone who's just told me my opinion is all in my head. You don't get to be horrible and then expect people to engage with you. As a teacher, I would have expected you to know that.

I'm not going to engage with you anymore.