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Not to like the Globe Theatre calling me a bitch?

549 replies

EmpressaurusWitchDoesntBurn · 05/10/2022 21:11

OK, not to my face. But following the non-binary Joan of Arc play they’ve shared a ‘terfs stop being transphobic challenge’ referring to anyone who doesn’t believe in gender identity as a bitch.

It’s a shame. I’ve been to some amazing plays at the Globe. But they’ve made their position on feminists pretty clear, so I won’t be going back.

twitter.com/The_Globe/status/1577694873204973569?t=4hr_PKJE3MY0_9-1x3oFvQ&s=19

OP posts:
KatMcBundleFace · 06/10/2022 16:37

"I sincerely doubt she's even set foot in the Globe "

😆😆😆😆😆😆

Was it your daughter that wrote the crap poem?

Discovereads · 06/10/2022 16:38

Knittingmonster · 06/10/2022 16:23

Cool @Discovereads ill take the GC feminists, you go,and tell the trans lobby. Teamwork makes the dream work

I wish it were that easy! #Wework

Knittingmonster · 06/10/2022 16:42

Discovereads · 06/10/2022 16:38

I wish it were that easy! #Wework

It is. All I need to do is tell women we’re all going to campaign for third spaces, or if no third spaces is possible, have a female facility and a mixed facility. Same with sports. Bet they agree. Now you go and tell the lovely trans lobby the same. Have fun storming the castle 😀😀

Discovereads · 06/10/2022 16:44

Naunet · 06/10/2022 16:26

The word was bitch, not Terf. Do you think bitch isn’t a slur? Let me guess, you think women are reclaiming it so it’s empowering, especially when a man uses it to attack women who are simply standing up for themselves.
Progress for dipshits. 🙄

No, the poster I was responding to was indeed comparing the N word to TERF, please click on “quote history”. But for your ease have posted the relevant sentences for you:

”Oh, hell no, Juno.
Do you tell black people that racial slurs are totally OK, because only a n+++++ would mind being called that?….”
“Or are you JUST a misogynist, Juno, and so you don't mind women being called a rape apologist and rape-normalising slur like TERF?”

The word “bitch” doesn’t appear in their post at all. So no, the word was not bitch.

I’ll overlook the “dipshit” comment as obviously you’re struggling with the quote function and perhaps a dodgy smart phone is to blame so do not wish to assume ill intent on your part (yet).

But, feel free to let me know whether you think TERF and N word are equally offensive and appropriate to compare in such a way?

Discovereads · 06/10/2022 16:47

Knittingmonster · 06/10/2022 16:42

It is. All I need to do is tell women we’re all going to campaign for third spaces, or if no third spaces is possible, have a female facility and a mixed facility. Same with sports. Bet they agree. Now you go and tell the lovely trans lobby the same. Have fun storming the castle 😀😀

Sure. I mean I pretty much say the same views to TRAs and GCs anyway. But I am a person of no account and even less influence. We need more of us.

Knittingmonster · 06/10/2022 16:48

No we can do it! Off you go, tell the TRAs that we’re having single sex spaces (not gender) and that we’re gonna campaign for third spaces but they need to help us. You’ll be fine.

Naunet · 06/10/2022 16:50

Passmethewhat · 06/10/2022 15:31

Is is a personal fear you all have? Is it misplaced anger? Is it revenge?

I simply don't understand the fears you have.

You don’t understand why women have a fear of rape and assault at the hands of men? But you do understand why some men would fear other men?

How interesting. 🥱

Naunet · 06/10/2022 16:56

Discovereads · 06/10/2022 16:44

No, the poster I was responding to was indeed comparing the N word to TERF, please click on “quote history”. But for your ease have posted the relevant sentences for you:

”Oh, hell no, Juno.
Do you tell black people that racial slurs are totally OK, because only a n+++++ would mind being called that?….”
“Or are you JUST a misogynist, Juno, and so you don't mind women being called a rape apologist and rape-normalising slur like TERF?”

The word “bitch” doesn’t appear in their post at all. So no, the word was not bitch.

I’ll overlook the “dipshit” comment as obviously you’re struggling with the quote function and perhaps a dodgy smart phone is to blame so do not wish to assume ill intent on your part (yet).

But, feel free to let me know whether you think TERF and N word are equally offensive and appropriate to compare in such a way?

She said LIKE Terf, but the actual word used was bitch. So are you ok with women being called bitches, or not?

Discovereads · 06/10/2022 17:07

Knittingmonster · 06/10/2022 16:48

No we can do it! Off you go, tell the TRAs that we’re having single sex spaces (not gender) and that we’re gonna campaign for third spaces but they need to help us. You’ll be fine.

I’ve adopted this picture to represent us shamelessly inspired by you knittingmonster. Would you like to identify with the red or blue figure? I’m fluid. See we are conquering a mountain together. Now all we need is a catchy name for us like Radical Unity Feminists, or RUFs got a bit of bark to it like a sheepdog protecting the flock against predator wolves. And then go off on our respective missions.

PS- I am quite serious. If you like the name, I will be calling myself a RUF from here on out on MN.

Not to like the Globe Theatre calling me a bitch?
Discovereads · 06/10/2022 17:17

Naunet · 06/10/2022 16:56

She said LIKE Terf, but the actual word used was bitch. So are you ok with women being called bitches, or not?

Sorry but you are very confused. The word bitch was not used at all in her post, nor was it referenced and it is very clear in her post and all posts responding to me that she is legit objecting to the poem’s very first word which is in fact “terfs”

EmpressaurusWitchDoesntBurn · 06/10/2022 17:23

The OP being so self-absorbed that a poem written by someone has been interpreted by her as being about her is a level of narcissism that I've rarely come across.

The title of this thread is: AIBU Not to like the Globe Theatre calling me a bitch? Nobody called her a bitch and I sincerely doubt that she has set foot inside the Globe.

<bursts into devastated sobs>

OP posts:
IcakethereforeIam · 06/10/2022 17:27

There, there @EmpressaurusWitchDoesntBurn <proffers clean hankie>

Knittingmonster · 06/10/2022 17:50

Discovereads · 06/10/2022 17:07

I’ve adopted this picture to represent us shamelessly inspired by you knittingmonster. Would you like to identify with the red or blue figure? I’m fluid. See we are conquering a mountain together. Now all we need is a catchy name for us like Radical Unity Feminists, or RUFs got a bit of bark to it like a sheepdog protecting the flock against predator wolves. And then go off on our respective missions.

PS- I am quite serious. If you like the name, I will be calling myself a RUF from here on out on MN.

Oooh if you don’t mind can I be red @Discovereads please? I like red. That’s an awesome picture and I’ll definitely be a RUF with you. We will sort this 💪💪💪

Discovereads · 06/10/2022 17:58

Knittingmonster · 06/10/2022 17:50

Oooh if you don’t mind can I be red @Discovereads please? I like red. That’s an awesome picture and I’ll definitely be a RUF with you. We will sort this 💪💪💪

That’s good because secretly, I’m not that fluid- blue is actually my favourite colour and I like how that one is fist pumping. But I wanted to give you first choice. 🤛

Knittingmonster · 06/10/2022 17:59

Discovereads · 06/10/2022 17:58

That’s good because secretly, I’m not that fluid- blue is actually my favourite colour and I like how that one is fist pumping. But I wanted to give you first choice. 🤛

You are so polite. This is the way forward. 😀. RUFs will win.

fallinover · 06/10/2022 18:11

Seriously I'd also be fine with joining a group that had male, female and third spaces.
I reckon it would work for pretty much everything, but I truly don't see TRA's having any time for it.
I'll be happy to be proved wrong.

IcakethereforeIam · 06/10/2022 18:17

I thought the blue one was summoning a fireball.

Knittingmonster · 06/10/2022 18:20

See @Discovereads its working! We will be a force for good 😀😀😀

Pixiedust1234 · 06/10/2022 18:39

Oh dear, Pass you are so funny. I don't watch/read Piers Morgan. Try the broadsheets, the BBC, sky news, itv, Google feed, etc. The MAIN news sites that the majority of normal, average people watch/read. But you know that already. Your froth is showing. Is it because you have been reading about Mermaids, Charity Commission and the Lottery news today?

OP - I'm impressed by your level of narcissism. Its so high it went right over my head. I wonder if you will get written about in some academic study in a few years time😮

spongedog · 06/10/2022 20:01

RandomCatGenerator · 05/10/2022 23:37

The lion, the witch and the audacity of this bitch is quite a well known meme…

Good. I liked the power - hopefully the name change worked! I am going to strut around - I think it's the audacity part I liked best. Haven't got onto Line 2 yet.

thelionthewitchtheaudacityofTHISbitch · 06/10/2022 20:03

Name change now works - that's technology for you!

Discovereads · 06/10/2022 20:04

fallinover · 06/10/2022 18:11

Seriously I'd also be fine with joining a group that had male, female and third spaces.
I reckon it would work for pretty much everything, but I truly don't see TRA's having any time for it.
I'll be happy to be proved wrong.

Great you can be our 3rd founding RUF member. Yes, we think trans “third” spaces are something both sides should accept. Where it can be done, ie a womens prison complex there should be a self contained, separately secured wing or block for transwomen. Since the TRA claim is that TW are more likely to be assaulted in prison than to assault other women prisoners, it’s for their protection. Their safety is of the utmost importance. The same applies for TM in mens prisons- their own wing/block safe space. No one should feel under threat while serving a custodial sentence.

For toilets, I was just thinking the ideal would be lots and lots more private parent & child loos with nappy stations. Let’s keep children away from all other adults for their safety (so TW don’t feel targeted). This also means no Dads trying to use nappy change stations or taking tiny daughters into any womens loos (since TW are equally fearful of men as women are).

Encourage parents that lone children or siblings can also use these parent & child loos independently until age 18.

Then have “all women” loos for anyone TW or W to use. And “female only loos” for no TW which are necessary due to protected beliefs of GC and perhaps certain known religions which do require female modesty- another protected belief. Repeat on mens side- all men and male only.

thoughts?

Discovereads · 06/10/2022 20:08

IcakethereforeIam · 06/10/2022 18:17

I thought the blue one was summoning a fireball.

Oh, yes it looks a bit like that, but it’s the sun shining down on our Swiss Alp team climb. Would be nice to be able to summon fireballs though. 8D6 damage.

IcakethereforeIam · 06/10/2022 20:09

Litter trays for cat gender?

Discovereads · 06/10/2022 20:16

*Where it can be done, ie a womens prison complex

To clarify, recognise some prisons are too small for this, but as the trans population is a minority and generally law abiding then trans prisoners would only be sent to the larger prison complexes where these secure/safe wings blocks can be done. Relatives/partners of a trans convict imprisoned more than 100miles from home town/city could apply for modest visitor travel allowance.