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AIBU to think this is an absolute scandal?

129 replies

LittleWhingingWoman · 25/03/2022 18:57

https://www.gbnews.uk/news/hospital-staff-told-police-their-patient-was-not-raped-as-alleged-attacker-was-transgender-despite-cctv-showing-assault-in-ward/250941?fbclid=IwAR0W41k8ee1QDudSyYH4jM1FINCWkcgN75XYZ9zmxj9j-yWMaZb0iB3DD_I

What is happening in the world for this to be even vaguely ok? NHS lying to women about their rapists?

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ofwarren · 25/03/2022 18:58

You are definitely not being unreasonable

PurpleDaisies · 25/03/2022 18:58

Absolute awful. That poor woman.

0blio · 25/03/2022 19:01

I've read about this a few times, that poor woman, how awful. Attacked in what should be a safe place when she was at her most vulnerable, then gaslighted by the staff. Absolutely disgusting.

ComDummings · 25/03/2022 19:02

Disgraceful

LabelMaker · 25/03/2022 19:03

How horrific.

Coffeeloverlondon12 · 25/03/2022 19:14

Typical gaslighting NHS managers... they all stick together but I’m shocked at how many seniors must have gone along with this for the complaint go get this far without anyone acknowledging or admitting to what happened to this poor patient. I don’t understand what kind of manager could possibly argue with the fact that if a man/woman has a penis, it is rape. How bizarre. God I genuinely hope they have been sacked.

ViaBlue · 25/03/2022 19:18

Yanbu!

Jackiebrambles · 25/03/2022 19:23

Yanbu it's utterly disgraceful. That poor, poor woman. Everyone involved should be sacked. This is what happens with gender identity nonsense and institutional capture.

CrowUpNorth · 25/03/2022 19:25

It is a scandal and there needs to be an urgent investigation as to why between the NHS and the police there wasn't a clear understanding that people recorded on the system as women can still be capable of rape, given a woman had come forward and said she was raped by another patients.

LittleWhingingWoman · 25/03/2022 19:31

They knew full well a man was in there. He can call himself whatever he likes but he's a man.

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Ravenglass83 · 25/03/2022 19:32

Poor woman - no YANBU, it's an appalling set of circumstances which have been enabled and then sustained by the (very dark and misogynistic) gender identity culture.

Tillsforthrills · 25/03/2022 19:33

This is utterly disgusting. I fear for my daughters

Clarinet1 · 25/03/2022 19:35

I don’t care what kind of gender people call themselves, the point is that everyone deserves protection from any kind of unwanted sexual approach by anyone and support and redress when it occurs.

AngeloMysterioso · 25/03/2022 19:36

This is where “Trans Women Are Women” gets you.

  • Rape is defined in the UK as intentional penetration - with a penis - of someone, without their consent.

So the logic follows-

  • Trans women are women
  • Women do not have penises
  • Therefore trans women cannot commit rape.

That’s how it works, right? Right?

Except we all know it’s bullshit, trans women are in fact male, the vast majority of them do indeed (still) have penises, and some of them do indeed commit rape. But this is a truth that must never be spoken because transphobia, and women like this poor victim here are the collateral that the TRAs and braying woke misogynists don’t give a shit about because men’s trans rights are more important than women’s rights.

Butitsnotfunnyisititsserious · 25/03/2022 19:37

It's disgusting but this is why some women and men are campaigning for biological women to keep their safe spaces and fights. The minute you disagree with that and say trans women are women, you basically advocate things like this happening as you know it's a possibility. They are still biological men.

Christienne · 25/03/2022 19:37

The Emperor has no clothes.

AngeloMysterioso · 25/03/2022 19:38

Also this thread is pretty much guaranteed to be shifted off to the feminism board at some point.

Butitsnotfunnyisititsserious · 25/03/2022 19:39

@AngeloMysterioso

Also this thread is pretty much guaranteed to be shifted off to the feminism board at some point.
Of course, because things like this can't be spoken about properly.. has to be shifted to the naughty corner
Tillsforthrills · 25/03/2022 19:40

@AngeloMysterioso

I really hope it’s not shifted to the feminism board. This needs to be seen and addressed by everyone.

sophienelisse · 25/03/2022 19:41

There was a thread on this the other day that I read.

I think it was in the femininity board.

But yes it is utterly appalling.

Jackiebrambles · 25/03/2022 19:44

@AngeloMysterioso

Also this thread is pretty much guaranteed to be shifted off to the feminism board at some point.
It better not be. I'm just annoyed that it took that poor woman being attacked for so many people to wake up and see what's happening.
Georgeskitchen · 25/03/2022 19:46

@Christienne

The Emperor has no clothes.
Precisely
Sexnotgender · 25/03/2022 19:49

YANBU. It’s beyond awful.

That poor woman.

My blood is boiling.

AngeloMysterioso · 25/03/2022 19:53

It better not be. I'm just annoyed that it took that poor woman being attacked for so many people to wake up and see what's happening.

Have they though? The only people I know who are talking about it are people who were aware of the whole shitshow nightmare already. It hasn’t gained much traction in the press, any stories have been way below the line.

LittleWhingingWoman · 25/03/2022 19:57

I fear for my daughters but also my elderly mother.

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