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Part 2: Female swimmers beaten by transgender athlete stage podium protest at ‘unfair’ result (

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pombear · 19/03/2022 20:38

Hope you don't mind whytcvv just posting here as your thread reached the limit for posts

Posting your original OP here:- Ignore my previous thread-start as it didn't include important title"

whytcvv
When will the rules change as I completely agree this is unfair and I expect that you will all largely agree with me.

For anyone that doesn't agree, please explain your reasoning to help me better understand.

This reminds me of the weightlifting story from last year.

People that are born female and people who are born male should not be competing in these events together. Our physical bodies are not comparable.

Have as many genders as you can think of, but there are only two possible sexes that you can be born as and that is what eligibility in these competitions should be based on.

AIBU

Link to previous thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/4508526-female-swimmers-beaten-by-transgender-athlete-stage-podium-protest-at-unfair-result

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Glittertwins · 21/03/2022 16:58

@Singlebutmarried

I’ve just come back from twitter. It’s horrible over there.

I stopped reading after five minutes as the vitriol for women daring to say something isn’t right with being pitted against a male who identifies as female is horrendous.

I’ve always been pretty much live and let live, but not at the expense of others.

It would appear that because of my viewpoint I’m the most hated of women, because I believe in two sexes. The rest is window dressing.

I was going to tweet back but there are some real nasty pieces of work on there so I didn't
334bu · 21/03/2022 17:00

Yes they'll now have to delete all the photos all over the Internet which show Lia towering over both male and female colleagues. Deliberately falsifying things to paint Lia in a better light just shows you how poor their argument is for Lia's inclusion in the female category.

Justanotherobserver · 21/03/2022 17:02

If Lia’s 5’8” then the other women in the race must be all of 4’!

Quite! And are we not expected to look up the heights and weights of the other competitors?

Nnique · 21/03/2022 17:03

Good time to read Nineteen Eighty-four. And Animal Farm.

‘Some women are more equal that others’.

Nnique · 21/03/2022 17:03

Sigh. *than!

Justanotherobserver · 21/03/2022 17:08

Looking at the picture here, if LT is 5'8" the other women must be teeny.

www.firstpost.com/sports/teammates-of-transgender-swimmer-lia-thomas-seek-bar-from-womens-competition-10348121.html

DottyHarmer · 21/03/2022 17:08

Perhaps Lia identifies as 5’8”….. How mean of people to question her truth…

DrSbaitso · 21/03/2022 17:11

It's absolutely Orwellian. Newspeak, doublethink, thoughtcrime, fact changing, war is peace, 2 + 2 = 5 if the Party says it does but sometimes it can be 3 or 4 and the problem is with your mind. It's not even metaphorical or satirical. It's literally happening. Learn to love Big Sibling Assigned Male At Birth.

Nnique · 21/03/2022 17:12

Except Big Brother is now your loving big sister.

And you’ll learn to love her penis.

RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 21/03/2022 17:18

What a load of crap…

They are obviously running scared and having to outright lie about things that are easily provable

5 foot 8 🤨

bruffin · 21/03/2022 17:18

@Singlebutmarried

Reka has had her twitter account suspended :(
I thought it was a fake account
DrSbaitso · 21/03/2022 17:19

I thought it was the misspelled Instagram account that was fake.

EmbarrassingHadrosaurus · 21/03/2022 17:21

@DottyHarmer

Perhaps Lia identifies as 5’8”….. How mean of people to question her truth…
The other members of the swim squad could help us out by giving their heights. It wouldn't be necessary for them to comment further.
SamphiretheStickerist · 21/03/2022 17:25

@DrSbaitso

I thought it was the misspelled Instagram account that was fake.
That's worse. Presumably someone set it up to harass her.
Justanotherobserver · 21/03/2022 17:25

Here's Emma Weyant, she's supposed to be 5'8"

abtc.ng/emma-weyant-height-age-instagram-how-tall-is-emma-weyant/

Justanotherobserver · 21/03/2022 17:28

In the DM, Sharron Davies describe LT thus: LT 'is nearly 6ft 4in tall and has large hands and feet that act like paddles'

www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-10631215/SHARRON-DAVIES-dont-want-trans-athletes-excluded-fair-competition-females.html

ChiselandBits · 21/03/2022 17:29

someone posted on FB that because Lia had to meet "on the day" testosterone limits she didn't have a hormonal advantage (ignoring the whole male puberty issue) and that she hadn't shot up from 450th to 1st when she switched from male to female events-sometimes she had only come 3rd or 4th, so she has struggled and worked her way up Hmm I was so disappointed to see which of my friends have liked the post.

bruffin · 21/03/2022 17:30

@DrSbaitso

I thought it was the misspelled Instagram account that was fake.
Maybe, I know the account I saw a lot were saying it was fake
crosstalk · 21/03/2022 17:36

@itsgettingweird

Have transactivists not yet targeted para sports?

I've cheered on all the competitors at the London Marathon for years now and watched the Olympics.

What if 10th guy in wheelchair decides to self ID as a woman ?

SafeMove · 21/03/2022 17:38

I am currently injected monthly with Leuprorelin. The drug used as 'puberty blockers'/treatment for gender dysphoria.

The fact that we are giving this drug to people for an ideology, and even more frighteningly, to children, is the biggest disgrace I have encountered in my life. These drugs are horrendous. We are not safeguarding vulnerable people at all and the TRA have actively sought this situation out in the name of what?

Somanysocks · 21/03/2022 17:39

Even the transwoman interviewed on Jeremy Vine this morning said LT was 5'8". They said it with a straight face like it was fact.

334bu · 21/03/2022 17:44

Sure they're just tiny. Honest

Part 2:  Female swimmers beaten by transgender athlete stage podium protest at ‘unfair’ result (
MsTSwift · 21/03/2022 17:48

She’ll be 5 ft 2 6 a little slip of a fairy thing next 🙄. The shameless lying of these people is scary. Do they know they are doing it? Is it intentional? What’s their endgame?

spacehardware · 21/03/2022 17:50

"scary. Do they know they are doing it? Is it intentional? What’s their endgame?"

They think reality is whatever enough people say it is. Everything is socially constructed. Everything can be identified into or out of

They. Are. Mad.

viques · 21/03/2022 17:50

@334bu

Sure they're just tiny. Honest
Well it is obvious from that photograph that they have taken a picture of Lia really close up and then photoshopped it with a picture of other swimmers taken far far away so they look teeny tiny. This was all explained years ago in an episode of Father Ted………….