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To say that you are not a true Christian

194 replies

MiaMarshmallows · 30/09/2021 22:32

If you do not want to help someone who you claim is important to you? When you know they are struggling emotionally and with health issues?
I know someone like this and it surely goes against all their values?

OP posts:
ElectricDeChocobo · 30/09/2021 22:35

You can be a shitty person and still be a Christian. A Christian is a person who follows Christ.

VladmirsPoutine · 30/09/2021 22:37

That's pretty mild going, you'd be alarmed at the things people have done in the name of Christianity.

ThreeLittleDots · 30/09/2021 22:38

Nah, God loves the sinners...

MichelleScarn · 30/09/2021 22:39

Is this you being angry at someone who's not helping you in the way you want them to?

user1473878824 · 30/09/2021 22:40

Lots of people think they are real Christians who do things or think things lots of other Christians don’t agree with. I assume you’re posting this because someone isn’t helping you and they say they’re Christian. I think it might be easier to tell us the problem you’re facing rather than making it look like you’re judging people, OP.

user1495884211 · 30/09/2021 22:41

Just because someone is Christian doesn't mean that they have infinite resources, either physical or mental, to give.

ZenNudist · 30/09/2021 22:43

Much more context needed. St James says faith shall be proved by good deeds but doesn't specify which good deeds. Plus if you don't always get Christianity right you can still repent.

You could also say its not Christian to be judgemental. So all told I think YABU. Best concern yourself with your own faith (or lack of) and let God deal with the person irking you!

PeachesPumpkin · 30/09/2021 22:44

Fortunately (for me anyway) you don’t have to be perfect to be a Christian. In fact Jesus always preferred to hang out with the less desirable or less valued people in society. He always said the sick were the most in need of a doctor.
Christians, like atheists, are made up of all sorts of people. Some are amazing and giving, others are not so far along the path towards God.
I am a Christian. I try my best but I am most definitely a flawed human being. Thankfully Jesus loves me anyway.

Kite22 · 30/09/2021 22:45

Just because someone is Christian doesn't mean that they have infinite resources, either physical or mental, to give.

This ^

Your post clearly has a back story and is your perspective. Obviously none of us have no idea what is going on.

'Helping' isn't always 'doing what the person who wants help, is wanting'. I can't vote unless you want to tell us what we are actually voting about.

LibrariesGiveUsPower45321 · 30/09/2021 22:45

You can’t judge someone by whether they are doing what you want them to.

What help do you need and do they have the resources (time/energy/whatever) to help you?

If you were skint and they were loaded whether they help you or not doesn’t mean anything about “how good a Christian” they are.

HouseOfFire · 30/09/2021 22:45

Depends on the reasons behind the struggle

PeachesPumpkin · 30/09/2021 22:46

@VladmirsPoutine

That's pretty mild going, you'd be alarmed at the things people have done in the name of Christianity.
They might have done it in the name of Christianity but they were probably taking the name in vain. Most likely it was human greed and the desire for power.
DrSbaitso · 30/09/2021 22:46

Much more information needed, including their side of it.

WindowsSmindows · 30/09/2021 22:47

If you want to talk to us, just talk to us.

RufustheBadgeringReindeer · 30/09/2021 22:48

Some ‘christians’ are utter bastards

Like everyone else

Sorry if you are struggling and not getting help

OppsUpsSide · 30/09/2021 22:49

You can be a shitty person and still be a Christian. A Christian is a person who follows Christ.

Hands up I am no theologian, but surely if you ‘follow’ the guy who hung out with ‘the less desirable or less valued people in society’ you wouldn’t be a shit? Otherwise it’s like being a football fan and just name checking a team but never actually knowing who plays/when/where etc?

If you just mean someone who goes to church to show they are better than people who don’t then yes they are often shits but i wouldn’t call them Christians, I would call them self-serving social try-hards.

user1473878824 · 30/09/2021 22:51

The thing is, OP, you could be asking us to pile on a relative who has done nothing but help you and you’ve, say, stolen from them repeatedly and has finally stepped back. Or it’s a friend with an empty house who won’t let you stay there when you’re trying to leave a husband who beats you black and blue.

saraclara · 30/09/2021 22:54

@user1495884211

Just because someone is Christian doesn't mean that they have infinite resources, either physical or mental, to give.
Exactly. It's impossible for even the most caring person to help everybody who wants or needs their help.
actingsergeant · 30/09/2021 22:55

YABU

PurpleDaisies · 30/09/2021 22:56

Sometimes the best help to someone is not to help them in the way they want.

More information needed.

ScumbagDave · 30/09/2021 22:57

Depends on so many things. If you're looking for a gotcha for someone you supposedly care about and you are setting out to attack their faith...then maybe you don't have a very good relationship with them?

As a pp said, even good people, Christian or otherwise, don't have infinite time and resources to help everyone.

If it is you or a loved one who is having the health problems then I'm sorry to hear it Flowers

pelosi · 30/09/2021 23:00

I’m religious but voted YABU as too vague.

Is your mum refusing to have your dc 5 days a week? Wink

Wazzag · 30/09/2021 23:00

Thing about us Christians (and all of us) are that we are all sinners and that is exactly why we need Jesus in our lives! I know I muck up a huge amount of things on a daily basis but I try hard not to and I try and repent for what I've done. I am lucky though that Jesus has already died for my sins. And this person will be the same! Life is far from easy being a Christian and judgement of other people of how we should or shouldn't live our lives doesn't always help!

pelosi · 30/09/2021 23:02

Life is far from easy for most people, not just Christians.

MichelleScarn · 30/09/2021 23:02

@pelosi

I’m religious but voted YABU as too vague.

Is your mum refusing to have your dc 5 days a week? Wink

Or is it you're looking to move to a bigger and better property and want them to fund?