To say that you are not a true Christian

[MiaMarshmallows]

If you do not want to help someone who you claim is important to you? When you know they are struggling emotionally and with health issues?
I know someone like this and it surely goes against all their values?

Um being a Christian doesn’t mean you dedicate your life to helping others irrelevant of your own needs. What a selfish view.

In this area I prefer Hinduism and Buddhism’s teaching of taking care of yourself first before you care for others.

Um being a Christian doesn’t mean you dedicate your life to helping others irrelevant of your own needs.

But it absolutely is- many churches teach just that.

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I really dislike religion in general but you can't police whether or not someone is true to their faith. If they believe they are a Christian then they are. It's just a stupid title anyway.

@CatsBooksAndCoffee

You said that people wouldn't be as quick to criticise other Religions on mumsnet. What happens in Sri Lanka has nothing to do with that.

It's just a stupid title anyway

Would you offend other religions in the same way? e.g. Jews, Muslims, Hindus?

Christianity was founded so long ago that most of its ancient rules are not relevant nowadays. Eg Some churches still consider sex before marriage a sin!!

Maybe they just don’t agree with what you want to do, or maybe they think bailing you out won’t solve your problems?

I’m a Christian - it doesn’t mean you have to give everyone what they want, whenever they want it. The onus is on both parties to seek forgiveness, ask for help, and show they deserve help by genuinely adopting changed behaviour.

@Jk987

Christianity was founded so long ago that most of its ancient rules are not relevant nowadays. Eg Some churches still consider sex before marriage a sin!!

Sex before our outside marriage isn’t a sin otherwise all the Biblical heroes who fucked their wives slaves would not have been classed as heroes. Adultry ie having sex with another man’s wife is the sin.

@mustlovegin

It's just a stupid title anyway

Would you offend other religions in the same way? e.g. Jews, Muslims, Hindus?

They’re all as stupid as each other to an atheist 🤷‍♂️ I don’t respect any religion, I DO respect people’s right to believe in them.

Far too vague to say.

I’m a Christian - it doesn’t mean you have to give everyone what they want, whenever they want it. The onus is on both parties to seek forgiveness, ask for help, and show they deserve help by genuinely adopting changed behaviour.

Really? Christianity teaches that people must "deserve" our help before we give it?
Very twisted view- even for a christian!!!

I was raised a christian and consider myself fairly familiar with doctrine- I really don;t agree with your slant- could you quote some scripture that illustrate your point?

My understanding of christianity is that all are deserving of help- not just the people who can show that they are worthy?

Christians are just normal people, no better than atheists, other religions etc. I wouldn't expect someone who calls themselves a Christian to behave better because of that label.

TheWelshposter

Except christians accept that atheists deserve to go to hell.

Yikes. How forgiving of them!

Don’t talk shit. No they don’t

What is the point of redemption then?
Accepting jesus as saviour?

What is that all about?

Depends on what you mean by help.

Childminding for an hour for a good friend so the can go to the GP = unreasonable to refuse if you can help.

Give money for heroin = reasonable to refuse even if you can help.

Helping someone is giving them what they need, not what they want, and it also depends on their own resources - financial, emotional, abilities, constraints.