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AIBU to be asked to reframe my trauma by the trans CEO of Scottish Rape Crisis?

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herewegogc · 10/08/2021 21:27

The CEO of Edinburgh Rape Crisis has said "Sexual violence happens to bigoted people too. But if you bring beliefs that are discriminatory, expect to be challenged on your prejudice. Reframe your trauma"

Apparently, survivors are to be "educated" in this service.

forwomen.scot/10/08/2021/the-real-crisis-at-rape-crisis-scotland/

Tonight is a really tough one. Women who have been raped or sexually assaulted need females to listen to them. Rape Crisis was that service and used to offer trauma based therapy.

I don't need educating - I know that detailing my experience to a man, or a transwomen is NEVER something I will do.

This is too much.

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Cailleach1 · 11/08/2021 20:42

In order to ensure that people (especially women) aren't alerted to the current scandalous goings on in social and political life.

It was the same when all the brutalisation of women and children was happening in Ireland. Society unquestioningly allowing actions leading to the broken lives of women and children. Interestingly, Birth Certs falsified there too.

You couldn't say anything about the male run ideological capture then either. Even if those running things identified as decent and spiritual. That was the big identity power then which let all those things happen.

Those invested or involved wouldn't want exposure and I imagine are trying to shut everyone down.

herewegogc · 11/08/2021 20:46

I was so upset I didn't think to switch voting on. I wish I had.

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Funnylittlefloozie · 11/08/2021 20:48

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backaftera2yearbreak · 11/08/2021 20:49

Might be worth sending this to Joanna Cherry

Patapouf · 11/08/2021 20:50

How can this be real 😩 for fucks sake

beastlyslumber · 11/08/2021 20:50

Wow bloody hell. I couldn't find this thread at all just now - thought it had been deleted and was just about to burst into tears! Not usually such a snowflake but this has all really got to me.

Glad it's staying in AIBU - no reason it needs to be shunted off out of sight. The more women who see this, the better.

TofuDelights · 11/08/2021 20:53

You would have been very high 90s %age wise if you had, so hopefully that gives you some reassurance and support.

Like others, I've been reminded to sign the petition linked upthread. Signing that is one thing we can all do!

beastlyslumber · 11/08/2021 20:54

Wait, so the thread hasn't been moved or deleted, but you can no longer click into it from your notifications? WTF is going on? Is this like a 'silent' banning?

TatoAndBeans · 11/08/2021 20:54

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herewegogc · 11/08/2021 20:55

@MNHQ has been in touch and will leave this in AIBU. I did say that if the thread becomes Swiss cheese I would prefer it to go over to the sex and gender board rather than it be deleted. You have all been wonderful today. Thank you.

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beastlyslumber · 11/08/2021 20:58

Thank you for posting, OP. I too have appreciated the support and solidarity. I'm so sorry for what you've been through.

Mistressiggi · 11/08/2021 20:59

As much of a case to move it to Scotsnet as to S&G!

herewegogc · 11/08/2021 21:00

Beastly Thank you. I am glad you have felt comforted too ❤️

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Feelingmardy · 11/08/2021 21:01

Genuine question - can I identify as a woman who identifies as a trans man identifying as a woman? If not, why not?

Jorrris · 11/08/2021 21:03

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beastlyslumber · 11/08/2021 21:05

Rape victims aren't allowed to call men men.

But males are allowed to call rape victims bigots.

OldTurtleNewShell · 11/08/2021 21:09

[quote herewegogc]@MNHQ has been in touch and will leave this in AIBU. I did say that if the thread becomes Swiss cheese I would prefer it to go over to the sex and gender board rather than it be deleted. You have all been wonderful today. Thank you.[/quote]
I'd quite like it to stay here even if it does turn into Swiss cheese. It'd be good for people unfamiliar with it to see just how much women's voices are deleted on this issue.

IsThePopeCatholic · 11/08/2021 21:09

‘Reframe’ - my arse.

littlbrowndog · 11/08/2021 21:16

Why has this thread been moved from my notifications

TofuDelights · 11/08/2021 21:16

Beastly at 21:05 - spot on.

Ghislainedefeligonde · 11/08/2021 21:20

Thank goodness this is back in aibu. ALL women need to understand where we are headed. Things are worse in Scotland currently and the snp are heading into even worse territory so we need as many people aware of this as possible.
It’s not just going to affect/already impacting rape crisis centres. It’s hospitals, prisons, personal care for vulnerable women living in their own homes. We need to be able to specify sex in certain circumstances such as those listed or so many women and children will be disadvantaged/ made to feel uncomfortable / feel threatened / harmed.
#nothankyou

FOJN · 11/08/2021 21:24

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More information here about action taken by women's rights campaigners.

StrawberryLipstickStateOfMind · 11/08/2021 21:29

MN deleted my earlier post too- I didn't misgender- I just said fuck a lot, I'm fucking angry. I said that lib fems are not feminist and that women who agree that rape victims should 'reframe their trauma' are complicit in women's rights being destroyed.

It's starting to feel like censorship on here now.

Anotherlovelybitofsquirrel · 11/08/2021 21:29

Why are people being deleted for stating biological FACTS?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 11/08/2021 21:33

It is not transphobic for a rape victim to reject a transwoman as a therapist. They are not being rejected because they're trans, they're being rejected because they're male.

Exactly. People are being disingenuous in saying women are rejecting people because they are trans. Wroxie was a good example of this.