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To think that Trump is not going to get re-elected?

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Anon778833 · 23/10/2020 20:27

There are still a few fringe types who think he’s going to get a landslide victory.

Personally I find this unlikely.

Any MNers from across the pond have a view more informed than myself?

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Anon778833 · 08/11/2020 23:27

This election has caused major problems between myself and my dp. He gets angry if I say Trump is a bad person. He has swallowed some ridiculous narrative about how he's come here to save humanity. It is like a cult. I can see exactly how Hitler became so dangerous.

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BelleHathor · 09/11/2020 00:16

if Biden was going to rig it might he not have done so in states that called for Trump that declared much earlier on?
Maybe it was? The glitches on the Dominion machine in Michigan also occurred in 2 counties in Georgia, so may warrant all states that used the machines to be audited. www.politico.com/news/2020/11/04/georgia-election-machine-glitch-434065

Also if there were no observers how can the republicans have seen what was going on in the first place?
That's why they're suing as under Pennsylvania law they should have been allowed to observe. They apparently have 50 people who have signed affidavits stating that they were prevented from doing so.

Watch this stream for an overview on the state of the legal challenges.
m.youtube.com/watch?v=ux0Qn2gc_ko

Anon778833 · 09/11/2020 00:25

No, they're suing because Donald Trump can't possibly imagine a world in which he could lose. He is so deluded and grandiose that he will NEVER concede that he could have lost fairly.

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HoldMyLobster · 09/11/2020 00:40

Bless you BelleHathor. Just keep on saying the same things over and over in the hopes that something will stick.

BelleHathor · 09/11/2020 00:45

No bless you Holdmylobster you just may have been victim to the biggest gift ever seen. But oh well, it will be interesting to see how the Supreme Court rules in Brookvar!

BelleHathor · 09/11/2020 00:45

*grift

Anon778833 · 09/11/2020 00:52

@BelleHathor can you imagine a situation where Trump would admit he lost fairly?

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BelleHathor · 09/11/2020 01:10

SugarbabyMilly - He will go if the legal avenues fail to net him the electoral college votes (or in the nuclear option the Republican legislatures refuse to vote to give him their electoral college votes). Apparently there is audio evidence. In 2018 the department of Homeland Security audited a sample of 22 counties for fraud. I imagine dependent on their findings a lot of those counties will have been under surveillance this year.

user1471565182 · 09/11/2020 01:21

Find some dignity, Belle, for the love of decency.

user1471565182 · 09/11/2020 01:25

He'l be into Qanon, Sugarbaby. Show him about the anti semitic theory of blood libel and see if he pulls his head out of his arse. Its all a repackaging of that. I honestly wouldnt stay with somebody who got into that and who couldnt see what a failure of a disgraceful human being Trump is.

HoldMyLobster · 09/11/2020 02:14

@BelleHathor

SugarbabyMilly - He will go if the legal avenues fail to net him the electoral college votes (or in the nuclear option the Republican legislatures refuse to vote to give him their electoral college votes). Apparently there is audio evidence. In 2018 the department of Homeland Security audited a sample of 22 counties for fraud. I imagine dependent on their findings a lot of those counties will have been under surveillance this year.
Imagine if you put all that effort into something other than repeating conspiracy theories?
MerchantOfVenom · 09/11/2020 03:13

If the Dems were any cop at stealing elections, you think they’d have done away with McConnell, Graham and Collins.

But no, they let them win their seats. 🙄

Anon778833 · 09/11/2020 06:16

@user1471565182

He'l be into Qanon, Sugarbaby. Show him about the anti semitic theory of blood libel and see if he pulls his head out of his arse. Its all a repackaging of that. I honestly wouldnt stay with somebody who got into that and who couldnt see what a failure of a disgraceful human being Trump is.
Yeah that's how I'm feeling. If we didn't have a 10 month old dd....
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Parker231 · 09/11/2020 06:46

Just read this description of Trump

“He is who he is and he has a relatively relaxed relationship with the truth.”

longwayoff · 09/11/2020 07:18

He won by "A LOT" but "BAD THINGS HAPPENED THAT WE WEREN'T ALLOWED TO SEE". GrinGrinGrin And there's a bogeyman hiding in the wardrobe Waaaahhhhh.

Parker231 · 09/11/2020 07:38

Lots of questions to be asked of the postmaster general, Louis DeJoy, the Republican donor who many believe was installed in an attempt to cripple the mail-in vote.

Parker231 · 09/11/2020 07:41

Great news that Biden will sign the US back up to the Paris climate change agreement and restore funding to the World Health Organisation.

MadameBlobby · 09/11/2020 08:08

[quote BelleHathor]if Biden was going to rig it might he not have done so in states that called for Trump that declared much earlier on?
Maybe it was? The glitches on the Dominion machine in Michigan also occurred in 2 counties in Georgia, so may warrant all states that used the machines to be audited. www.politico.com/news/2020/11/04/georgia-election-machine-glitch-434065

Also if there were no observers how can the republicans have seen what was going on in the first place?
That's why they're suing as under Pennsylvania law they should have been allowed to observe. They apparently have 50 people who have signed affidavits stating that they were prevented from doing so.

Watch this stream for an overview on the state of the legal challenges.
m.youtube.com/watch?v=ux0Qn2gc_ko[/quote]
Yeah but that’s the whole point. There must have been observers for them to be able to comment what was going on surely. So how can they say there were no observers?

If I were committing electoral fraud I might have done it so I won Florida or Texas and this would have been over much sooner.

Why would Biden commit fraud but we are expected to believe that Trump and his team are whiter than white? It doesn’t fit in with what we know about Trump himself does it.

Why can’t you just accept that he lost and lost fairly? Every election has its winners and losers. This time Trump has lost. It can’t be that difficult to understand surely

Parker231 · 09/11/2020 08:11

Report from the FT

Mr Trump and his allies have claimed that their observers were not allowed inside the vote count at all. This is false. Trump campaign lawyers have admitted in court they had access.

But in Michigan, Georgia and Nevada, lawsuits either filed or hyped by the campaign were rejected for presenting no serious evidence of the issues they claimed.

A Nevada judge said on Friday: “Why do I grant extraordinary relief if you don’t have evidence to show the likelihood of success on the merits?”

ThatIsNotMyUsername · 09/11/2020 08:14

We did know this would happen though didn’t we?

MadameBlobby · 09/11/2020 08:36

@ThatIsNotMyUsername

We did know this would happen though didn’t we?
Yep.

There are no circumstances under which this giant manbaby would have conceded defeat gracefully.

ThatIsNotMyUsername · 09/11/2020 08:48

I actually had my money on more of a rumplestiltskin exit myself...

MerchantOfVenom · 09/11/2020 09:44

If Trump didn’t have form for always, always calling RIGGED when things don’t go his way, maybe people would be willing to listen.

Didn’t he even claim the Emmy’s were rigged when the Apprentice didn’t win an award?

He is old news now, he needs to clear off.

ThatIsNotMyUsername · 09/11/2020 09:56

I’m sure he said the Nobel peace prize was rigged too. What a sad world he must live in...

At breakfast table:

Melania cracks open soft boiled egg... ‘oh look a double yolk egg!’
Donald - THAT IS A FIX! FAKE EGG FAKE YOLK. I DEMAND A RECOUNT!

Anon778833 · 09/11/2020 10:38

I doubt they ever eat breakfast together these days. She has repeatedly said that she doesn't want people to feel sorry for her. Certainly, she must be a tough woman to cope with 15 years of his shit.

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