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Boris Johnson - How many children do you have?

169 replies

solieltoday · 31/05/2020 11:54

AIBU to think it’s a total joke that, in this year 2020, the man who holds the most senior and influential post in the land (apart from Mr Cummings) AND who has recently become a father again, will not even go so far as to publicly acknowledge how many children he has fathered?

How is it acceptable that his Wikipedia page states - “Children - at least 6.”

He obviously has some kind of silencing injunction out, but why is more not made of this? Does he pay maintenance to his other child / ren or not? Are the CSA not after him?

If he was the subject of some feckless “baby father” MN thread, denying the existence of one or more of his kids, how do we think that thread would go?

More than that, imagine a female PM with a similar Wikipedia profile - “Children - ?” She sound be hauled over the coals and it’s all anyone would ever talk about.

So why does this flaming muppet get away with it and why do we have such low standards for a PM, such as we would not accept within our own families or acquaintances?

Boris Johnson - How many children do you have?
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ThePluckOfTheCoward · 31/05/2020 13:36

It's about time he had the snip, we don't need anymore offspring from this lazy, can't keep it in his trousers, buffoon.

SoupDragon · 31/05/2020 13:36

if a woman with a career in politics had 6/7 kids she would have been off work a long time

Maybe not. What is the minimum maternity leave?

VenusTiger · 31/05/2020 13:38

Who's business is that! I don't see the mothers complaining about it in the papers. He never seems to stick up for himself - the argument in the flat with Carrie is an example - the evening it happened, she'd been drinking, Jon Worboys on trial that day etc. etc. - he was being accused of all sorts, but kept saying "it's a private matter" - so why do you think it's a negative thing that we don't know how many kids he has?
In all honesty, if you ask most blokes "how many children do you have?" they'll give you an answer and then say "....as far as I know anyway..."

VenusTiger · 31/05/2020 13:39

@ThePluckOfTheCoward Hmm so it's always up to the man is it?

cheesyrats · 31/05/2020 13:40

I neither know nor care how many children he has fathered.

As far as I'm concerned, a person's ability to impregnate on multiple occasions has no bearing on their ability (or otherwise) to do their job.

Blibbyblobby · 31/05/2020 13:40

I used to think "people's personal lives are their own business, it shouldn't be relevant to their job, political position or public status"

Then I thought: "hang on, if someone is prepared to deceive and abandon the people closest to them, the ones they should have the most reason to treat well, in pursuit of their own interests and desires, why on earth would they treat the general public any better?"

ShootsFruitAndLeaves · 31/05/2020 13:41

As I understand it Wikipedia once said '5 or 6'. He has since had another child. It is not clear why this has not been changed to '6 or 7', rather than 'at least 6'.

Fallsballs · 31/05/2020 13:41

I read something about injunctions re his kids/ex’s not talking about him. His son is the spitting image of him and there’s pics of him around.
I don’t think there’s anything ‘noble’ on his part about maintaining their anonymity.

TSSDNCOP · 31/05/2020 13:42

His job efficacy is not dependent on declared offspring.

The issue is that his job efficacy is shit.

ShootsFruitAndLeaves · 31/05/2020 13:44

Was thinking, if a woman with a career in politics had 6/7 kids she would have been off work a long time - perhaps too long to be PM. Would it be possible ?

Wasn't that all the fuss about Nicola Horlick? She had six children, she is very wealthy, she had nannies. Not that hard in that context is it!?

It's certainly easier for men, and a woman who had six children by three different men might be judged differently, but the six children is not inherently a dealbreaker...

ShutUpaYourFace · 31/05/2020 13:45

Yes YABU
Not another Boris bashing thread from yet another Labour/Lim Dem/Remainer trying to stir hate on MN. Really have you nothing better to do?
Yawn

2bazookas · 31/05/2020 13:45

I imagine at least one of his former mistresses does not want the world to know about her poor taste in men. Maybe including keeping it secret from the child he fathered.

zscaler · 31/05/2020 13:45

However, is it actually relevant how many children he has? You aren't allowed to ask about children in a job interview for example as it is irrelevant.

It matters because the reason it isn’t known how many children he has is because he doesn’t recognise all of his children and it’s not clear whether he provides for those he doesn’t recognise.

If we expect our leaders to have any kind of moral fortitude (and we should) then the question of whether they have children they have abandoned without provision or recognition is completely relevant.

Fallsballs · 31/05/2020 13:49

@ShutUpaYourFace do you like to come on threads to trot out the same old tired lines - yawn yawn

kimlo · 31/05/2020 13:51

it is completly relevant ehen you see the things he has said about single mpthers and their children in the past.

CherryValanc · 31/05/2020 13:52

All think "imagine if a female MP"

I don't think you need to go too far to find a comment on the sexual attractiveness of a female MP, their appearance or about their having children or not.

Not too hard to imagine to be honest.

PerkingFaintly · 31/05/2020 13:53

It's really none of our business how many children he has.

It is our business that he is completely lacking in integrity.

His behaviour towards his many families is some evidence of this. But it's hardly the only piece of evidence, and frankly he's been parading his failings on such a scale this year that it's lost in the crowd.

ShutUpaYourFace · 31/05/2020 13:54

Fallsballs
Yes, I do.
OP is being Unreasonable.
It's nobody's business.

thegreylady · 31/05/2020 13:55

He has 6 children including the new baby. Only one is still of school age and, in fact, he may be over 18 now. The eldest is called Lara Lettice and she is in her mid/late 20s. Next is Milo and then two more girls before Alexander then the baby. This is all easily found on Google.

The80sweregreat · 31/05/2020 13:56

It was brought up last year at the election but he refused to answer the question as to how many children he has.
If this was a woman MP (who had then become PM , ) who had walked out on her children or her partner was looking after them full time , she would not even be a PM!
Double standards at every twist and turn.

I'm not bothered personally ; I didn't vote for my conservative MP and didn't want Boris running the country but this is what I have got as many others wanted him to ' get brexit done' and were cock a hoop back in December.
Even if he had 10 children it wouldn't make difference to policies or things going wrong so why we need to know is neither here nor there really. It's the children that I feel sorry for as he can't have any time for any of them and hasn't been a hands on dad , from what I can gather anyway.

ThePluckOfTheCoward · 31/05/2020 13:57

[quote VenusTiger]@ThePluckOfTheCoward Hmm so it's always up to the man is it?[/quote]
Not always, but in his case it should be as he already fathered far more children than the planet needs and I don't think spreading his gene pool adds anything useful to society if they all turn into smug, over privileged, bumbling twats like their father.

trellishead · 31/05/2020 13:59

But he's such a blustering, funny cheeky chap isn't he. One can't help but love his innocent roguish ways and fluffy hair! Hmm

DateLoaf · 31/05/2020 14:00

I used to think "people's personal lives are their own business, it shouldn't be relevant to their job, political position or public status"

Then I thought: "hang on, if someone is prepared to deceive and abandon the people closest to them, the ones they should have the most reason to treat well, in pursuit of their own interests and desires, why on earth would they treat the general public any better?"

^This!

fuckinghellthisshit · 31/05/2020 14:02

When people tell me that sexism no longer exists I ask the what would happen if a woman with BJ's sexual/relationship history tries to get elected. They never have an answer.

kimlo · 31/05/2020 14:02

@thegreylady the youngest girl, the one that he had never met is 10. Her name is Stephanie.

He wont answer if there are anymore.

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