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Boris Johnson - How many children do you have?

169 replies

solieltoday · 31/05/2020 11:54

AIBU to think it’s a total joke that, in this year 2020, the man who holds the most senior and influential post in the land (apart from Mr Cummings) AND who has recently become a father again, will not even go so far as to publicly acknowledge how many children he has fathered?

How is it acceptable that his Wikipedia page states - “Children - at least 6.”

He obviously has some kind of silencing injunction out, but why is more not made of this? Does he pay maintenance to his other child / ren or not? Are the CSA not after him?

If he was the subject of some feckless “baby father” MN thread, denying the existence of one or more of his kids, how do we think that thread would go?

More than that, imagine a female PM with a similar Wikipedia profile - “Children - ?” She sound be hauled over the coals and it’s all anyone would ever talk about.

So why does this flaming muppet get away with it and why do we have such low standards for a PM, such as we would not accept within our own families or acquaintances?

Boris Johnson - How many children do you have?
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Nomorepies · 31/05/2020 14:06

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MeganBacon · 31/05/2020 14:06

if a woman with a career in politics had 6/7 kids she would have been off work a long time
Ursula von der Leyen has seven children and a very impressive career.

MarginalGain · 31/05/2020 14:07

Having six children with three different women is a obvious breach of traditional conservative (small c) values. I think it's chaotic, messy and shows poor judgement so it does cause me to mark him down as a Conservative voter.

MeganBacon · 31/05/2020 14:10

It's really no-one's business.

I have a child (now 18) with a man who has the capacity to attract public attention, and I have devoted a lot of energy over the years to ensuring that there is no public connection because I don't want my child embarrassed or put under public scrutiny.

solieltoday · 31/05/2020 14:13

I don’t care how MANY children he has. Nor do I care about what he does or doesn’t look like.

What does annoy me is this - if a female PM had one or more children dotted around who were living with their fathers, but she wouldn’t even admit to their existence, I don’t think she would get away with it. Papers like the Fail would be in a flat spin.,

Some PPs also have a point that she wouldn’t get away with moving a man 20 years her junior into No 10 either and having a baby with him without questions being asked about her relationships with her other child / ren.

Personally, I couldn’t give a hoot about who he chooses to be in a relationship with or marry or whatever. But I do think it’s ridiculous to have “Children - at least 6” in your Wikipedia page. Even Trump can at least be clear about how many children he has.

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missbipolar · 31/05/2020 14:13

Maybe another other children's mothers don't want them public acknowledge?

DateLoaf · 31/05/2020 14:13

Sorry but I really can’t buy it that Boris is the selfless guy taking some personal bad rep on the chin simply in order to protect the privacy of however many of his children.. Halo

Boris Johnson is the living embodiment of male entitlement and this kind of thing is classic behaviour from entitled people. If there’s a question they don’t like, they feel perfectly entitled not to answer it because they are more different and special than everyone else is.

SoupDragon · 31/05/2020 14:15

It matters because the reason it isn’t known how many children he has is because he doesn’t recognise all of his children and it’s not clear whether he provides for those he doesn’t recognise.

How do you know? And I mean actually know.

MarginalGain · 31/05/2020 14:15

It's really no-one's business.

Strictly speaking, it is not, but it is a glimpse into Johnson's way of thinking and I don't see why I should ignore it.

I know it's fashionable to 'not judge' people but I don't know how to exist as a human and not form continuous judgements about everything that I see.

If this makes me 'judgemental' then I am perfectly content with it.

CrystalTipped · 31/05/2020 14:19

Oh but he's a charming, caddish rogue!

I can't wait for his comeover to finally give up the ghost. His popularity rankings will plummet...

DateLoaf · 31/05/2020 14:20

I’ll just leave the Nolan principles of public life here

www.gov.uk/government/publications/the-7-principles-of-public-life/the-7-principles-of-public-life--2

notangelinajolie · 31/05/2020 14:21

You do know 'his' Wikipedia page isn't his?
And what has the number of children a person has got to do with their ability to work in their chosen career?
How many children do you have?
And do you include them on your CV?
Ridiculous.

timetest · 31/05/2020 14:22

I think if a woman could not name all her children she would be held to account by the tabloids and would suffer at the ballot box. Definitely double standards.
Equally, If I were the mother of Boris’s child, I would not want it to be known that I had had the dubious pleasure of shagging him.

DidoLamenting · 31/05/2020 14:25

He has 6 children, which is easily verified by Googling. The background in relation to the child born before Wilfred is complicated- not least by the fact that her mother was in a long term relationship with another man at the time.

user1471565182 · 31/05/2020 14:27

I remember the press attacking Ed Milliband only a few years back because he wasnt married to his long term partner.

Cornishclio · 31/05/2020 14:28

It does not really bother me how many children he has and whether or not he pays maintenance is down to the childrens mother. How he performs his job as PM is much more relevant and in that he is seriously lacking. I never voted for him or his party anyway though.

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user1487194234 · 31/05/2020 14:32

I can't stand him (or any Tory) but I do think that's a private matter

solieltoday · 31/05/2020 14:33

Again, it’s not about how MANY children he has. He could have twenty, for all I care. It’s about acknowledging them.

I wonder how rust child might feel, growing up, seeing their half-sibling born now? Being “he / she who cannot be named.” If they’re not aware now, it will affect them at some point in later life.

Ok, it is possible that the mother/s don’t want to be acknowledged. It’s possible, yes. But I think it’s far more likely that there are super- injunctions in place so that such “loose ends” don’t interfere with his career. Just as he conveniently got his divorce through before his Brexit / PM campaign. I don’t believe that he is motivated by anything beyond his own career strategy.

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VenusTiger · 31/05/2020 14:35

It’s about acknowledging them how do you know he hasn't OP? how do you know?
He is a private man - as I said upthread, he wouldn't even defend himself in the case of the row in Carrie's apartment - he's not interested in telling people, end of.

cheesyrats · 31/05/2020 14:36

I can see that if a high-profile politician has an affair/affairs/children with someone who is perhaps connected to the opposition, or the government of another country with which we are at odds, a spy, a criminal, or in charge of expensive government contracts being awarded, then we would have the right to know. Otherwise, a politician's private life should be their own.

NOTANUM · 31/05/2020 14:40

I think it says a lot about a man if they don't see all their children and won't publicly acknowledge one or more. I personally don't know anyone who does this, regardless of how messy their lives are.

Bluntness100 · 31/05/2020 14:41

For gods sake op. Are you bored in Lock down or something? You have no idea if the child wishes to be acknowledged. The fact they are not speaking publicly and never told anyone that it’s leaked to the press who they are indicates strongly that the child doesn’t wish to be publicly acknowledged And that’s why he doesn’t talk about it. He may have a relationship with the child. In fact as it’s rumoured to be one child not referee to who is a sibling of another child he has acknowledged it’s highly likely you’re imagining shit.

Seriously. Get a grip. Your rights don’t trump the child’s

VenusTiger · 31/05/2020 14:42

@ThePluckOfTheCoward oh that's alright then - the mother's regret it clearly and shouldn't have "mothered" the children - have you heard yourself

VenusTiger · 31/05/2020 14:43

I think it says a lot about a man if they don't see all their children and won't publicly acknowledge one or more - honestly HOW DO YOU KNOW THIS?! and HE'S A PRIVATE MAN.

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