Boris Johnson - How many children do you have?

[solieltoday]

AIBU to think it’s a total joke that, in this year 2020, the man who holds the most senior and influential post in the land (apart from Mr Cummings) AND who has recently become a father again, will not even go so far as to publicly acknowledge how many children he has fathered?

How is it acceptable that his Wikipedia page states - “Children - at least 6.”

He obviously has some kind of silencing injunction out, but why is more not made of this? Does he pay maintenance to his other child / ren or not? Are the CSA not after him?

If he was the subject of some feckless “baby father” MN thread, denying the existence of one or more of his kids, how do we think that thread would go?

More than that, imagine a female PM with a similar Wikipedia profile - “Children - ?” She sound be hauled over the coals and it’s all anyone would ever talk about.

So why does this flaming muppet get away with it and why do we have such low standards for a PM, such as we would not accept within our own families or acquaintances?

I think it says a lot about a man if they don't see all their children and won't publicly acknowledge one or more. I personally don't know anyone who does this, regardless of how messy their lives are

Really? How many globally famous people do you know then? And how many of this Avalanche of the famous you know have children who may have requested not to be acknowledged for private reasons?

I wonder how rust child might feel, growing up, seeing their half-sibling born now? Being “he / she who cannot be named.” If they’re not aware now, it will affect them at some point in later life

The mother and child's name are both widely in the public domain. The relationship with the mother was complicated because she was in a relationship with someone else.

What an appalling thread

This famous person won’t say how many kids he has
Oh do you know why not
No no idea he doesn’t discuss it
Has the child ever spoken publicly
No never
Has anyone who knows the child
No never
Could it be there is a reason for that and the child doesn’t wish to be acknowledged Publicly. Ie they are very private and don’t want the media intrusion or maybe have some form or disability or mental illness and don’t wish to be put in the public eye as it would be damaging for them. That possible he has a relationship with them and is doing it for the child’s benefit?
Well I don’t give a fuck I want to know and I think I have a right to know, who cares about the kid.

It would be wrong for any child of his to be 'outed' publicly, clearly.

However, I do feel his multiple children with multiple partners, some before he'd left his current marriages etc is a measure of the man.

A woman who behaved similarly in a similar role would be villified.

It’s about acknowledging them

Perhaps privately, but his personal relationship with each of his children, whether he pays/paid child maintenance, etc is not the public's business.

As PPs say, there are many, many reasons a child might request that he not acknowledge the fact he's their father in public.

And this situation was public knowledge before the election - it's not like this is new information that's just come to light. People who were sufficiently troubled by this aspect of his private life wouldn't have voted for him and since he won, it seems that the majority of the electorate didn't mind.

Wikipedia is hardly a reliable source! It's run by volunteers and is notorious for being altered/used to make political points until the statements/ inaccuracies etc are challenged y the person they pertain to.
I imagine that Boris has got more on his mind that challenging a Wiki page about himself!

Plenty of celebs have children who, for whatever reason, are shielded from the public eye - often at the request of the mother.

Bluntness100

The mother and the child, a daughter born in 2008, are easily identifiable. Their names are in the public domain.

What's jaw dropping is that anyone can bring themselves to allow him to mate with them. I mean I know nothing about politics so I'm not influenced by that, it's just, what could ever be sexually attractive about him? He looks like an overgrown toddler.

Didn't his dad Stan give the number away some weeks ago when he talked about the birth of 'his 14th grandchild'? How many DCs do Boris's siblings have? Deduct that number from Stan's number of 14 grandchildren and you end up with Boris's number of DC (hoping HE at least acknowledges all his grandchildren).

This thread say so.much about the average Mumsneter.

I reall hope it does not reflect the views of the average woman. If if does then feminism is screwed

What a load of bollocks.

I dont like boris at all but what do his children have to do with anything?

How can any child take the decision about “wanting to remain anonymous.”

People have affairs. Some people have strings of affairs. As pp have said, everyone generally knows about this child anyway. Speculation is often more damaging than fact. I wouldn’t say any of his other kids are prolific in the press and nor should they be, but most people can at least be honest about the basic fact of how many kids they have, despite the circumstances of the affair/ relationship / whatever. That’s all done. It was what it was. But the child is still his.

I don’t know anyone who can’t be upfront about their children. Call me old-fashioned, but I think this is basic. Particularly if you proclaim to stand for conservative values.

@katienana

I think the PM should be a person with good morals and no secrets because then they cant be leaned on or blackmailed

That rules out almost everybody in the country then, we all have secrets.

How can any child take the decision about “wanting to remain anonymous.”

Easily. My teenagers do not have social media and they tell people not to put their photos on social media because they don't want to be on there. They prefer the privacy.

Is op going to provide details of their children including details of the father?

If not, why not?

“ HE'S A PRIVATE MAN.”

Well how do you know that?

I don’t know why this is even a thing. He has 4 children with his ex wife and a baby with his current fiancé. So far so controversial! So what people are really digging for is private details about one child who was apparently conceived as the result of an affair. Massive scandal!!! It’s especially odd that this is MN where procreating with unsuitable partners in unedifying circumstances is pretty much par for the course.

Yes I could tell you about how many children I have and who is the father. Why wouldn’t I

When you look at the appalling way that Flora Keays' cabinet minister father behaved, I can kind of get that people assume the reason that Johnson won't publicly acknowledge this daughter is because he wants the details kept private, but it's not a given.

Poor Flora Keays couldn't even have her name on anything to do with her school because her shit of a father insisted on that as a condition of the maintenance agreement he eventually reached with her mother.

And she's got special needs and he didn't make any provision for her in his will.

But I can really get why the child's mother might want to keep their paternity private. I'd not want it known. Ditto the child themselves, once they're old enough to express a view.

The child's mother, Helen McIntyre, was unsuccessful in her application in 2013 to have the fact that Boris was the child's father kept secret. Up until then neither Johnson nor McIntyre had said who the child's father was. McIntyre had a long term partner when the child was born.

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/boris-lovechild-can-be-public-knowledge-appeal-court-rules-7twfvh6wv8q

I can kind of get that people assume the reason that Johnson won't publicly acknowledge this daughter is because he wants the details kept private, but it's not a given

It is the mother who wanted the details kept secret.

Read Bill Cash's Daily Mail article about his relationship with Helen Mcintyre and Boris. Its the most unintentionally hilarious thing I've ever read. Thinks hes Oscar bloody Wilde

Here she is. I read this whenever im miserable. Makes me pine for PG Wodehouse though.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7439103/Society-writer-William-Cash-reveals-Prime-Minister-agreed-let-raise-love-child.html

What a load of bollocks