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Acquitted but still impeached ... Trump thread 99

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TheClaws · 12/02/2020 03:00

I’ll tell you a funny story. I’m a member of a very right-wing US politics online discussion group for kicks. The moderator of the group controls - and gets involved in - every discussion. (I should say the membership of this group is over 50K and the number of posts a day is generally 30 or so.) She’s also a typical Trumpian in that she reels off the standard “lamestream mass media” etc lines” and she mutes anyone who disagrees with her.

Anyway, I took her on eventually. She said that the Democratic candidates wanted to get rid of the Constitution. To this, I replied Trump flouts the Constitution on a regular basis. “What? Provide examples!” she replies. “Emoluments clause,” I replied. “That’s just one.”

GUYS. SHE HAD NOT HEARD OF THE EMOLUMENTS CLAUSE.

She then just spat something about she doesn’t read mass media lies and that’s why she didn’t know and muted me.

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TheClaws · 26/03/2020 22:17

Also on nails, over on Fox, Ainsley Earhardt (an indistinguishable blonde - they all look the same) is struggling with a common problem.

Bobby Lewis @revrrlewis

"all my friends are saying you know, this is not a priority, people are dying and i realize that, but they can't get their nails done"

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lionheart · 26/03/2020 22:21

I saw that Claws and honestly thought it was satire.

TheClaws · 26/03/2020 22:48

This is the link to the tweet - it has the video clip in it.

Definitely not satire! She even talks about the shame of hair root growth starting to appear - CRISIS

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TheClaws · 26/03/2020 22:49

Lordy - here’s the link. twitter.com/revrrlewis/status/1243162967555870721?s=21

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lionheart · 26/03/2020 23:03

Oh dear.

AcrossthePond55 · 26/03/2020 23:11

The level of stupidity and ignorance in that tweet is unbelievable. No...considering the source it's all TOO believable.

lionheart · 27/03/2020 01:21

slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/03/trump-political-ad-cease-and-desist-letter.html

'Over the course of his presidency, Donald Trump has made thousands of false, offensive, and damaging claims that could hurt his reelection odds. Democrats plan to use these statements as campaign fodder through the November election. On Wednesday, the Trump campaign adopted a new tactic to neutralize these attacks: It threatened to sue critics of the president in a brazen effort to censor Trump’s opponents into silence. Any real legal action is unlikely to hold up against the First Amendment. But Trump doesn’t need to succeed in court in order to win.'

Lweji · 27/03/2020 08:29

Not sure direct criticism is the best way forward.
I've always thought that Democrats should run a more positive campaign with strong policies, but it won't be Biden.

Lweji · 27/03/2020 09:16

Dr Fauci speaks.
Very good interview.

"I hope "people" realise how important it is to listen to you"

Was that a dig at the President?

TheNorthWestPawsage · 27/03/2020 09:37

New Evidence Indicates Intelligence Not Contagious
www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/new-evidence-indicates-intelligence-not-contagious

The Borowitz Report: After weeks of near-constant exposure, a 73-year-old man appeared “100 per cent asymptomatic” of intelligence, researchers found.

Jaichangecentfoisdenom · 27/03/2020 10:06

@Lweji - thank you so much for that link, I think I'm a little bit in love with Dr Fauci. Interesting to see him speaking on a programme that would in no way be approved by Trump! Subtly socially distancing himself from the President. I presume he'll be sacked soon.

UYScuti · 27/03/2020 10:26

I have so enjoyed watching that advert where they juxtapose trumps puffery and bullshit with the rising number of cases, genius!
(Very stable genius even 🤣)
perhaps banning it would have the opposite effect... make it more popular and more widely shared?

lionheart · 27/03/2020 10:46

It's all over the twitter for sure.

I think the facts (and his inability to countenance them) will be what bite him in his orange arse.

But the costs will be terrible.

www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/03/27/coronavirus-trump-fox-ventilator/

'President Trump cast doubt Thursday on New York Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo’s assertion that his state, which has become the epicenter for the coronavirus outbreak in the United States, will need 30,000 ventilators to properly care for the influx of patients anticipated to flood hospitals in coming weeks.

“I have a feeling that a lot of the numbers that are being said in some areas are just bigger than they’re going to be,” Trump told Fox News host Sean Hannity in a phone interview. “I don’t believe you need 40,000 or 30,000 ventilators. You know, you go into major hospitals sometimes they’ll have two ventilators, and now all of a sudden they’re saying, ‘Can we order 30,000 ventilators?’”

The president’s comments came shortly after the New York Times reported that the White House had abruptly called off a plan to announce this week that General Motors and Ventec Life Systems would be partnering up to produce as many as 80,000 ventilators, citing concerns with the deal’s $1 billion price tag.'

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 27/03/2020 11:19

The World Service today was reporting that Trump is hailing the rise in cases of covid-19 in the States as some sort of victory -- for the number of tests being done, I think?

www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-us-canada-52058628/trump-attributes-rise-in-us-cases-to-testing

They're doing tremendous testing, apparently.

Verily the mind doth boggle.

Incidentally, why is each new place the "epicentre" of the coronavirus outbreak? (I thought that was earthquakes.) I don't see why they shouldn't just be the centre of it, because I can't think what "epi" adds to the information being given.

Jaichangecentfoisdenom · 27/03/2020 13:32

Sorry, could someone give me the link to the advert @UYScuti is talking about, please? Thank you!

chomalungma · 27/03/2020 13:35

This might help

Jaichangecentfoisdenom · 27/03/2020 13:36

Another worrying article from The Atlantic. Apologies if you've already seen it.
www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/03/presidents-character-unequal-task/608743/

DetroitLake · 27/03/2020 17:09

Science has done a great job of getting us here with their tinkering in that level 4 lab in wuhan. Depending on scientists instead of God is doomed to fail.

borntobequiet · 27/03/2020 19:09

Using epicentre when it’s not earthquakes bugs the hell out of me too. Especially when the emphasis is on epi, which it mostly is.

Anniegetyourgun · 27/03/2020 19:18

Yes, because there were no epidemics before science learned how to create them. Like smallpox - no wait, science learned how to defeat that one. Cholera, anyone? Bubonic plague? Nasty, nasty, natural viruses.

TheNorthWestPawsage · 27/03/2020 19:56

The Wuhan Institute of Virology is a real place, and the exact origin of the novel coronavirus is still a mystery, with researchers racing since the outbreak began to figure it out. But already, virologists who’ve parsed the genome and infectious disease experts who study coronaviruses say they have enough evidence the virus is brand new and came from nature. A large group of them, citing genome analyses from multiple countries, recently affirmed in The Lancet that the virus originated in wildlife.

The emergence of the virus in the same city as China’s only level 4 biosafety lab, it turns out, is pure coincidence.
www.vox.com/platform/amp/2020/3/4/21156607/how-did-the-coronavirus-get-started-china-wuhan-lab

lionheart · 27/03/2020 20:05

I hadn't thought about the epi part before but now it will probably annoy me. Smile

As Nancy Pelosi said:

"It won't happen unless we respect science, science, science. And for those who say we choose prayer over science, I say science is an answer to our prayers."

Roussette · 27/03/2020 20:35

Oh yes, to that last link lion. That is so HIM

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