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Harry and Meghan Resigning (Part Two)

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TheMustressMhor · 10/01/2020 10:56

Following on from the previous thread, someone asked for another to be created.

Here it is.

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Oakenbeach · 11/01/2020 16:15

What’s annoying me is this nonsense that she’s been hounded out of the UK because of racist media I’m no fan at all of many of the tabloids and think they spout sensationalist crap much of the time, but having followed the links to the “racist” articles, they seem to be nothing of the sort.

Yes, they’re written in a breathless, punchy style using colourful (pardon the pun) language, but racist?

www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-3909362/RACHEL-JOHNSON-Sorry-Harry-beautiful-bolter-failed-Mum-Test.html

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3896180/Prince-Harry-s-girlfriend-actress-Meghan-Markles.html

I think the term racist has been stretched to breaking point and weaponised by those who want to grind their axe against anyone who doesn’t cow-tow to the woke liberal agenda.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 11/01/2020 16:16

AutumnRose I'll try to find the video link for you, but I was thinking of the arrival where Harry sort of dodged around his wife, shifting positions and moving his hands awkwardly while he waited for "his turn" to greet the hosts

Come to think of it, that might have been a different venue to Canada House; as said, I'll try to dial it up again

Andylion · 11/01/2020 16:16

And why this constant emphasis on Canada? Maybe it looks good as a first step, being part of the Commonwealth and all that, but does anyone seriously think Meghan will trade the contacts, the glitz, the weather and the proximity of her mum for the northern rain?

I agree. Canada is more palatable as a transitionary home. And a move to the states as their ultimate goal fits in with them having actual success with brand Sussex Royal, even if they are no longer senior royals, even if they were to lose the Sussex part. The sort of people who actually buy a SussexRoyal hoodie won’t care about H&M’s relationship with the RL.

They will not be abandoned by their prestigious friends, Oprah, etc. because these people would look very fickle. So being at the head table at important events with important people will happen.

I think they are willing to sacrifice any goodwill they have left in the UK, as it will be more than compensated for in admirers in the states. In fact, I am certain the backlash against them in the UK will bring more followers from elsewhere.

Oakenbeach · 11/01/2020 16:18

Her life has been made a complete misery.

She knew (or should have known) very well that she was doing and what would be expected. If she’s miserable, she’s the author of her own misery.

jollybird · 11/01/2020 16:19

If women could take a step back and think - could I deal with this as a new Mum?

Many here could not.

eminencegrise · 11/01/2020 16:21

I think Harry is smitten and in love. I think he really loves her.

He's also not the brightest light in the harbour.

Yeah, announced all this on Kate's birthday. Also announced her pregnancy at Eugenie's wedding.

Harry also used a speech before bereaved parents to witter on about becoming a father in typical I'm the First Man to Procreate Aren't I Special fashion.

Then there was the barefoot on the beach speech about the environment after he'd taken a private jet to the exclusive resort location.

They are both very me, me, me.

jollybird · 11/01/2020 16:21

How could she know she would receive this level of criticism and hatred?

She should have known?

jollybird · 11/01/2020 16:22

And I'm thinking a lot of the vitriol directed at her is from women.

cathyandclare · 11/01/2020 16:22

This is racist and also totally inaccurate. It plays on stereotypes, implying she's 'ghetto' and using language to link her in readers' minds to gang culture. EXCLUSIVE: Harry’s girl is (almost) straight outta Compton: Gang-scarred home of her mother revealed – so will he be dropping by for tea?

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3896180/Prince-Harry-s-girlfriend-actress-Meghan-Markles.html

LovePoppy · 11/01/2020 16:24

@jollybird according to many, she should have expected it to be hard, and the press has been kind to her mum, so she’s lucky.

It’s an interesting defense, that Meghan should have known people would be horrible, but she should still love the U.K. all the same.

She was set up to fail.

But she wasn’t given much help to help herself. I feel Harry has failed her, and is now trying to fix it

Zipadeedoodah · 11/01/2020 16:25

If the views on here are representative of the rest of the country how right they were to go. She knew she could get away from all this. How hard it must have been to be met with such a barrage of racism and sexism after all the optimism she came with. They will find their place on a global stage away from these outdated prejudiced barbs. Good luck to this wonderful young family.

Oakenbeach · 11/01/2020 16:26

How could she know she would receive this level of criticism and hatred?

Where was the “hatred” in the press. Yes, certain writers may have been scathing about their apparent worthiness, self-importance and hypocrisy, but if you’re in the public eye you’ll
get criticised, royal or commoner, black or white.

LovePoppy · 11/01/2020 16:26

@cathyandclare don’t be so silly.
No one is racist. She’s making it up. She’s just disliked because “insert (not at all racist) reason here”

🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄

Oakenbeach · 11/01/2020 16:28

This is racist and also totally inaccurate. It plays on stereotypes, implying she's 'ghetto' and using language to link her in readers' minds to gang culture.

It’s not racist... It makes the point that she’s not from a privileged background, that’s all. Yes, it’s sensationalist in tone, but exactly the same story would have been written if she were a white girl from anywhere other than the Home Counties.

Wheresthebeach · 11/01/2020 16:30

The whole 'Russian Billionaire' home is a worry too...seems very Prince Andrew in terms of hanging out with those with massive amount of money. Russian Billionaires aren't known for their 'no strings attached' generosity.

Reports are saying that Charles is desperate to keep Harry happy and involved. I wonder if it would be best to cut him loose, with the hope that he comes back. If they are allowed to cash in on being Royal, without the duties it includes, then that really will be damaging for the RF.

jollybird · 11/01/2020 16:31

Oak, your post is confusing
You admit and deny the hatred towards her at the same time.

LovePoppy · 11/01/2020 16:31

@Oakenbeach

The article was very racist in tone. The fact that so many argue it isn’t is mind boggling.

It’s not the same as Article about a white girl. At all.

AraGrand · 11/01/2020 16:35

Imagine Harry dating a Northerner!

DAUGHTER OF MINER TO MARRY PRINCE

Nothing fucking racist about it. Just tabloid journalism.

Wheresthebeach · 11/01/2020 16:35

eminencegrise
Harry also used a speech before bereaved parents to witter on about becoming a father in typical I'm the First Man to Procreate Aren't I Special fashion.

Wow. Just Wow at the insensitivity.

They do tend to 'steal thunder' repeatedly. Again the self centeredness is breathtaking.
Dear God...missed that one.

jollybird · 11/01/2020 16:37

There definitely has been racist undertones to the reporting.

No getting away from it.

Some of the early reporting was incredibly racist when the news first broke that they were dating.

AraGrand · 11/01/2020 16:37

Sure we all know the ins and outs of Kate's family now. In fact it's frequently trotted out here that her Mum was an air hostess (or is that Meghan's Mum?) and her Mum shoved her into private school and reared her to marry William. Like the mother had that much foresight!

PicsInRed · 11/01/2020 16:38

Have the balls to fucking put your money where your mouth is and tell us all to fuck off in person.

🤣 Oh I'm sure that would assuage the racists nicely. Like doing the last thing the racists wanted - "just leaving". Well that's worked, hasn't it? 🤷‍♀️

Puzzledandpissedoff · 11/01/2020 16:38

We'll find out just how cruel she is when they divorce

If I knew and loved Harry personally that's exactly what would be worrying me

Obviously I don't, but all the same I looked at the gorgeous photo of him cuddling Archie in Canada and thought "I wonder how much longer you'll be able to do that" Sad

On an associated note, is anyone else impressed that Trevor Engelson's stayed silent so far? Given the cash he could no doubt make from just one interview, I think that does him credit

Oakenbeach · 11/01/2020 16:38

Oak, your post is confusing. You admit and deny the hatred towards her at the same time.

Criticism (which she has faced) isn’t the same as hatred.

HeddaGarbled · 11/01/2020 16:39

But the people they interact with haven’t been horrible at all - it’s all cheers and applause and hugs and adoration and sycophancy everywhere they go. They don’t have to read the Daily Mail nor below the line comments nor watch Piers Morgan on TV. Many people in the public eye choose not to expose themselves to the nastier fringes of the media and social media.