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AIBU?

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Schools method of discipline AIBU

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Ninjafox · 19/02/2019 20:16

Not sure if I'm being precious but I'm sure I'll be told either way now. Found out today that DC's school discipline naughty children by sending them to another class to sit on a chair.

My thoughts are this is worse than a telling off as they are actively showing the other children 'look at this naughty child' and humiliating them. This happens as young as reception. At least if they are sent to the head they get a telling off and that's more or less the end of it. It feels a bit like the village stocks or a public flogging. AIBU to think this is a bit off? For reference the school is in a really good catchment and the naughty kids of whom I know a few seem quite mildly naughty tbh.

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Jackshouse · 19/02/2019 20:18

It’s common to remove a disruptive child to some where else so they are not preventing 30 other children from learning.

WorraLiberty · 19/02/2019 20:20

I expect the Head has better things to do tbh.

It feels a bit like the village stocks or a public flogging

I think that ^^ is an over reaction.

noblegiraffe · 19/02/2019 20:21

The naughty kid needs a break from the classroom but still needs to be supervised by an adult. Sending them to another class achieves this.

Fabaunt · 19/02/2019 20:22

No it’s totally reasonable. Why should the teacher take precious time away from other kids to deal with a naughty child who’s already disrupting the class? If he doesn’t want to go sit in another class then he should be good.

Sunflower1989 · 19/02/2019 20:22

Sending a child for a 'telling off' from the headteacher is still quite a public way of disciplining a child too. I imagine the sanction of sitting in another class would come as a final punishment after warnings and chances for the child to correct their behaviour. It is to prevent disruption to the other pupils that deserve a peaceful environment to learn.

Huntawaymama · 19/02/2019 20:22

If it works and stops them misbehaving then I think it's better then wasting the heads time

BarbarianMum · 19/02/2019 20:22

They do thos in our school. Its never the first resort but if a child will not listen to their teacher then it happens. Head's got better things to do than bollocking every silly child who wants to disrupt the class, she deals w serious behavioural issues like bullying.

E20mom · 19/02/2019 20:24

I really think your reaction to this is OTT.

hidinginthenightgarden · 19/02/2019 20:25

I don't like it but then teachers have very few powers these days. Not sure what they are meant to do when a quick bollocking from the head isn't working.

Yesicancancan · 19/02/2019 20:25

Don’t be so ridiculous, no wonder some children are so unreasonable, sending them to calm down in another room is tame.

missmapp · 19/02/2019 20:26

This happens in most schools i have worked in. The child works at the back of another room with little interaction from the teacher. Then after the given time, a restorative meeting happens with the teacher. Only for children who have already ignored several instructions and have not responded to in class talking to by teacher. Both child and teacher, and the class, need some time apart.

Yesicancancan · 19/02/2019 20:26

I say this as a parent of a very unruly child, I try and they try and he is a pita, I wish they would send him to the head mistress. She scares me. 🤪

Thesnobbymiddleclassone · 19/02/2019 20:27

Used to do this at my school.

If you disrupted the class then you're the one removed.

sideorderofchips · 19/02/2019 20:27

They do this at the secondary I work at. Remove the child from the class to prevent disruption and interrupted learning. Put them in another class, generally with older kids (ie year seven going into a small year 11) class. That way year seven teacher can carry on teaching.

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Ninjafox · 19/02/2019 20:27

Some interesting opinions, I do wonder if you're teachers? I would just assume in a pretty well to do catchment, where the teacher has a few LSAs on hand to help, that they would need to send a reception age child to another class for support? Feels like the teacher can't control a class tbh

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Doobydoobeedoo · 19/02/2019 20:27

It's the system used at our school too.

It stops the rest of the class from having their learning disrupted and means that the teacher can get on with teaching.

It means that the child is removed from the situation and can get on with their work in the other classroom.

From what I've seen, the children in the other class really don't pay all that much attention to the child who has been sent from elsewhere. It's nothing like the village stocks or a public flogging.

SachaStark · 19/02/2019 20:27

It's called parking, and is a widely practised method of behaviour management. It's perfect, IMO. Doesn't work if you keep them in the same classroom, as the child being silly/misbehaving will continue to "perform" for their comfortable and recognisable audience.

PCohle · 19/02/2019 20:29

I think you are focusing too much on the individual misbehaving child and how this makes them feel, and not enough on the learning of the 29 children in the class.

Greensleeves · 19/02/2019 20:32

This was the system at the best school I taught at. The children were well used to it and the school had a very nurturing and positive ethos (though high expectations) so I never saw any child particularly traumatised by it.

I did have one little boy who was normally very well-behaved who totally overstepped the mark one day, and I told him he would have to go and sit in Mrs X's classroom for ten minutes. He wailed "This has never happened to me before!" so I sat down with him, explained that what he had done was serious enough that he did need to do this, but that Mrs X wouldn't shout at him and when he'd had a break and a think he could come back in and we would say no more about it. He squared his little shoulders and went and did his time, then came back in and had a great afternoon.

I hated doing it, no teacher enjoys sanctioning anyone, but classrooms in that school were calm and purposeful and the children were happy.

WorraLiberty · 19/02/2019 20:35

I'm not a teacher. I'm a parent with little patience for people who blame teachers for not being able to control their class.

The child isn't sent to another class for 'support', they're sent as a punishment and to calm down and learn to behave.

I'd say that teacher is very much in control. I wish more had that no nonsense attitude.

PCohle · 19/02/2019 20:40

I'm not a teacher. I don't think this technique has anything to do with the teacher lacking control, but with removing the child from the situation.

You sound pretty critical of teachers OP. I'm not sure why you asked if you weren't, in fact, willing to be told you were being precious.

lilyboleyn · 19/02/2019 20:40

“feels like the teacher can’t control the class tbh”

Ha, another doting parent who would rather blame the teacher than support the school in addressing her child’s poor behaviour.

You’re right, love. The teacher’s awful, the school behaviour management system is awful, and your lovely little snowflake would be better off in a much gentler class where they will never be sanctioned or called out for poor behaviour. That’s what’s you wanted to hear, isn’t it?

Doobydoobeedoo · 19/02/2019 20:41

"Some interesting opinions, I do wonder if you're teachers? I would just assume in a pretty well to do catchment, where the teacher has a few LSAs on hand to help, that they would need to send a reception age child to another class for support? Feels like the teacher can't control a class tbh"

I'm not a teacher.

I've seen this method used when I've been in school as a volunteer. It's used in a very calm manner with several warnings for the child about what will happen if their behaviour doesn't change. The teacher is always very much in control.

WorraLiberty · 19/02/2019 20:42

I'm almost 50 and disruptive kids were sent out of class when even I was at school.

Poloshot · 19/02/2019 20:44

Good sounds reasonable to me. Its a deterrent

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