'Everybody has a heart. Except some people,' Trump thread 90.

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From Bette Davis, who was too canny to name names.

Here is the old thread:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3458456-Shutdowns-military-pullouts-and-resignations-it-s-Christmas-and-Trump-thread-89?watched=1&msgid=84240445#84240445

falling back onto some "gotcha"
which is what you're trying to do on here with us

You're in charge are you???!

It was you who initially tried to invalidate my point by stating that I thought Trump was not misogynistic because he hired women, you have yet to back up that comment.

never posted that they said 'build the wall' as I never heard that (having watched footage from different cams etc) but don't let that stop you assuming....

That was the basis of the outrage, it's ok to accept you got on board the outrage train based on false premises, but don't try and get out of it by being semantic.

Just move on and accept the critical thinking is somewhat limited.

My critical idpol thinking tells me two wrongs don't make a right.
If the boys are totally without blame, why has their school issued an apology? No one comes out of the video fully exonerated (or fully culpable). Justanotherlurker your posts always seem a tad goady and are rarely backed up with any "critical" thinking of your own. You finally coughed up the longer video - well done.

Few posts above, justanotherlurker.

TammySwanson Sun 20-Jan-19 17:00:32
@justanotherlurker
Previous thread, Jan 6th this is what you wrote, verbatim:

the CIA now has 3 women in charge and go through mental hoops of saying Trump is a misogynist despite appointing them

I don't think I ever said anything about the wall.

The MAGA hat speaks volumes though.

What the hell is this 'culture war' of which you speak?

theintercept.com/2019/01/17/no-more-deaths-border-documents-trial/

Justanotherlurker, you tell overt untruths time and again on these threads, about really basic stuff like the content of previous posts by yourself and others.

When you're a blatant a falsehood merchant about things this easily checked, why on earth would anyone believe anything on your say-so, ever?

which is what you're trying to do on here with us

Who am i?

The initial outrage was about some catholic kids chanting "build the wall" around some NA, the 2 hour video totally disputes that and shows it wasn't like some media has portrayed. Some media outlets have decided to double down and have got his mother on some rant as justification as to the initial false outrage.

It's a culture war, the fact that you are knee deep in the divide and conquer shit doesn't mean you can't be called out just because you are coming from apparent just angle.

In fact, you appear to model yourself on one Mr D J Trump, who simply churns out falsehood after falsehood.

He does it to turn the spotlight on himself and control what people are talking about.

And he does it to detach people from trusting their own memories and outside knowledge, and follow him in face of the facts.

Why do you do it?

you tell overt untruths time and again on these threads, about really basic stuff like the content of previous posts by yourself and others.

Cite some of these untruths.

I'm not wasting my energy in arguing with justanother. He/She can say what they choose, it's their right. Just as it's my right to ignore themor refuse to engage.

Just understand that refusing to engage or argue with you justanother, does not, by itself, mean that you are right. I'm living with the shit-show that is Scrotus, my energy is devoted to doing all I can to assure that he's not given a second term.

It was you who initially tried to invalidate my point by stating that I thought Trump was not misogynistic because he hired women, you have yet to back up that comment

Nope. You got that wrong. Check back.

I was on no outrage train. I post as I find. If someone comes on here and posts to the contrary, in a more pleasant way than you do, I will read and digest it.

And the MAGA hats do speak for themselves.

In fact, you appear to model yourself on one Mr D J Trump, who simply churns out falsehood after falsehood.

So cite what I have said is an untruth, I am calling out an un true statement that you all got sad face over.

You are more like Mr D J Trump than you like to admit, only accepting news stories that back up your pre conceived notions and shout down everyone else as being uneducated.

You are no better than a MAGA hat wearing fuckwit.

Cite my apparent untruths and I will concede the point.

I already have. Right here on this thread.

I await your concession.

A more Independent viewpoint: www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/maga-hat-donald-trump-native-american-covington-catholic-nathan-phillips-black-muslims-a8737186.html

Like Across, I'm not going to engage further with this poster.

It's very, very clear to anyone reading the thread that he tells falsehoods about posts by himself and other people.

And that his posting is simply a me-rail.

You are more like Mr D J Trump than you like to admit, only accepting news stories that back up your pre conceived notions and shout down everyone else as being uneducated

A sweeping generalisation there, what tosh. I've been on the 90 threads (give or take a couple), and that's not a theme I've noticed.

Buzzfeed has been a Pulitzer Prize finalist.

TomVeiga - where do you place Fox on a scale of news credibility? Asking for a friend.

Nope. You got that wrong. Check back.

Fair enough, wrong user.

I was on no outrage train. I post as I find. If someone comes on here and posts to the contrary, in a more pleasant way than you do, I will read and digest it.

If you are being honest that's revisionist, trying to bust the hive mind of offering alternative view points is why its just become signal boosting random tweets from discredited journalists. Post as I find is not coming from a critical mindset more of preaching to the choir, that is why I jump into these threads.

It is far from the critical analysis that some like to make out, there is just as much divide and conquer shite signal boosted over the past multiple threads, it's getting nothing more than knee deep IDPOL.

And the MAGA hats do speak for themselves.

Because politics has become and extreme IDPOL situation, if you take a step back you would see that a lot of you are knee deep in this and pushing just as much fake news as the other side.

Either accept that you are in a culture war and post as you see, or pretend that you offer objective analysis.

I'm not wasting my energy in arguing with justanother. He/She can say what they choose, it's their right. Just as it's my right to ignore themor refuse to engage.

You haven't argued with me, nor have you accepted that the initial outrage over the MAGA hat guy was severely skewed and miss reported.

Still, lets pretend that we are open to opposing ideas and of critical thinking

I'm trying to work out the import of Giuliani's admission that the president recalls talking to Cohen about the proposed Russia deal long after January 2016 (the date Cohen lied to Congress about).

I mean, clearly this is something Trump misled the American public about before (and after) the election, but he misleads them about so many things. His base don't care.

8 times Trump denied doing business in Russia
theweek.com/speedreads/810185/8-times-trump-denied-doing-business-russia

Buzzfeed has been a Pulitzer Prize finalist.

The journalist who broke this story is not however.

where do you place Fox on a scale of news credibility? Asking for a friend

Touché