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So he lied then

432 replies

Metoodear · 13/08/2018 15:23

We’re are the calls for Corbyn and the rest of the any semites to step down

www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2018/08/13/jeremy-corbyn-admits-present-wreath-laid-munich-massacre-terrorists/

The silence speaks for it self

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SadTrombone · 13/08/2018 15:40

*where
*anti
*itself

Google it - calls for him to step down are literally everywhere. In pretty much every newspaper. Almost all the fucking time. Given considerably more air time than any Tory fuck ups or scandals.

Bluntness100 · 13/08/2018 15:46

It's fairly constant in thr media for calls for him to step down due to anti semitism, terrorist sympathy etc. And there has been for a long time.

He simply refuses to go, even when it's his own MPs calling for it

BootsMagoots · 13/08/2018 15:49

They're absolutely everywhere! More so than that for TM.

ClaryFray · 13/08/2018 15:51

Corbrn needs to go. He's a daft man, and has little to offer.

MyAuntyBadger · 13/08/2018 15:52

Is he receiving money from the Conservative Party to stay, do you think? He's just such a massive own goal for Labour.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 13/08/2018 16:00

Out of interest, does anyone know if he attended any ceremonies to honour those killed at the Munich Olympics?

I genuinely don't know either way and it's not easy to google since most results just concern the current furore ... but I thought someone else might?

KatieKittens · 13/08/2018 16:09

I’m giving him the benefit of the doubt here- Sources have said “ he was at the service in 2014 to commemorate 47 Palestinians killed in an Israeli air strike on a Tunisian PLO base in 1985”

The daily mail are reporting there was a plaque for Black September members in the same graveyard. That doesn’t mean that he layed a wreath there.

samG76 · 13/08/2018 16:12

There are pictures all over social media of him laying a wreath at the graves of the Black September members. And his story has changed each time the previous version is disproven.

KatieKittens · 13/08/2018 16:13

I agree puzzled and pissed off, that it’s difficult to find out facts - all I can gather from the Daily Mail article is speculation.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 13/08/2018 16:26

KatieKittens that's what frustrates me too, though his reported comments that he "doesn't think he was involved" and even that he "can't remember" sound a bit ominous

If he really didn't honour the killers why not simply say so - unless he's worried that something else might come out to prove he did?

samG76 · 13/08/2018 16:30

JC - “I was there because I wanted to see a fitting memorial to everyone who has died in every terrorist incident everywhere"

note that this seems to include the terrorists themselves.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 13/08/2018 16:36

There are pictures all over social media of him laying a wreath at the graves of the Black September members

Are you absolutely sure sam76? I thought the memorials for the 1985 bombing of the PLO and that for Black September were in different parts of the cemetary and that he claims it's the first he was honouring?

It's true that the story keeps changing, which is why I'm trying to be sure

FatherBuzzCagney · 13/08/2018 16:41

Some of the reporting of this story references an article Corbyn wrote for the Morning Star about the incident. He says that 'wreaths were laid at the graves of those who died on that day and on the graves of others killed by Mossad agents in Paris in 1991'. That seems to be a reference to a Mossad assassination operation in Paris in 1992 (not '91), when a man thought by the Israelis to be connected to the Munich atrocity was killed. He is now saying that yes he was there but he doesn't think he was involved in the wreath laying for the possible terrorist - not exactly the world's strongest denial. And that kind of half-arsed obfuscation doesn't look too good when pictures like this are all over the news. The man is a complete embarrassment, but the Corbyn cult members are never going to accept it - which is shit for the rest of us in the Labour party because it means that the next likely PM is Boris fucking Johnson.

So he lied then
SheWoreBlueVelvet · 13/08/2018 16:42

So Labour wanted someone with principles and got someone.
Now what's the problem?

KittyHawke80 · 13/08/2018 16:43

Oh do try not to be absurd. He’s clearly not an anti-Semite. He has grave concerns about Israel: any right-thinking person should. He’s done a good job as an MP and been returned to the N Islington seat at every GE since ‘83. He advocated sitting down with terrorists for years before Clinton and Blair and their ilk were lauded for suggesting it. The right-wing press desperately trying to unseat him is transparent and being pathetic. Whether he’d be any good as a PM - who knows? He’s certainly better than anything the Tory party has to offer right now. It’s literally only Ken Clarke and Soubry who are worth a damn, these days. Shame.

samG76 · 13/08/2018 16:44

Puzzlad - that was between 9 am and lunchtime, but it has now changed. Also he wrote at the time:

Wreaths were laid to mark the 1985 bombing of the PLO HQ and the graves of others killed by Mossad agents in Paris in 1991.”

For those who are wondering why the Mossad was knocking people off at the time, it is worth mentioning that Western countries often released suspected terrorists, because the groups threatened to hijack planes, or did hijack them and demanded that the prisoners be released. So I doubt anyone served time for the Munich massacre, which is why the Israelis decided to take action.

DelphiniumBlue · 13/08/2018 16:44

Why are people wasting their time talking about Corbyn ( there's nothing new, he's supported self-determination for Palestine, and other places for years,) when Brexit is looming and we don't have a plan?

Corbyn himself is a Leaver, and doesn't seem to have any useful ideas to add to the debate. Let's focus on what can be done or the shit is going to hit the fan in the very near future.

Bingpot · 13/08/2018 16:50

Try this article. He was laying a wreath at the graves of the terrorists involved in the Munich massacre. Weird how he keeps insisting he's there for peace and dialogue and when actually he's honouring terrorists. If there were no issue with this action - why isn't he being honest? Why is he fudging it with 'I laid a wreath but I wasn't involved'?

medium.com/@anyabike/corbyns-open-secret-22a70fa03254

StormTreader · 13/08/2018 16:50

Lets focus on getting the travesty that is May out, and Hunt, and Trump, and then maybe we can look at literally everyone else in the world as a much lower priority.

Helmetbymidnight · 13/08/2018 16:53

He needs to go- we need someone to properly oppose the idiocy of Brexit.

YouTheCat · 13/08/2018 16:53

I'd rather have Corbyn any day than openly racist and bigoted Boris.

shinyredbus · 13/08/2018 16:53

Corbyn is an absolute disgrace.

TornFromTheInside · 13/08/2018 16:56

The anti-Corbyn campaign is pretty obvious. I'm not a major fan of his, but he's clearly being hounded with the media trying to back him into a corner.

There is very little genuine political news at the moment - because our media are hell-bent on scandal and subterfuge. Boris Johnson's antics and Corbyn's persuasions are easy fallbacks for the media.

It's staggering when one of the biggest changes in the UK's recent history is taking place, and our relationship with Europe is a critical one.
Yes, it's covered by the media, but with very little depth to it - arguably because our strategy appears to have very little depth to it too. We won't be privy to any mastermind strategy of course, but I'll hedge my bets on chaos and confusion behind the scenes.

But back to Corbyn. I think he's done tremendously well to avoid any real crap sticking - perhaps because he's not particularly guilty of much wrongdoing.

TornFromTheInside · 13/08/2018 16:57

Corbyn is an absolute disgrace.

I'm not a fan of his, but in what way is he a disgrace?

JacquesHammer · 13/08/2018 16:59

The silence speaks for it self

You’re really not looking very hard.

Have you been on FB? Twitter? Other websites (gasp, yes these do exist)? Listened to the radio? Watched the news?

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