So he lied then

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We’re are the calls for Corbyn and the rest of the any semites to step down

www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2018/08/13/jeremy-corbyn-admits-present-wreath-laid-munich-massacre-terrorists/

The silence speaks for it self

Sam

It’s hardly comparable is it?

We simply don't know what he has and hasn't done over the last 20 years or so

We don't, no, but I'd have thought some of his allies do - or even just the man himself

If he really does condemn ALL violence, shouldn't that involve honouring ALL those who've suffered and died as a result, even if it's just laying a wreath? And given the campaign against him, wouldn't you think someone would offer evidence of a more balanced approach, if such evidence exists?

he could have sympathised with the Palestinians, but drawn the line at laying a wreath for Black September members

Never mind political sophistication, sam - just an element of personal judgement might have helped, and frankly I've not seen much evidence of that either

@Havabiscuit Of course, it's comparable.

The Black September group broke into the Olympic Village and slaughtered Israeli athletes. They are terrorists, just the same as the London 7/7 attackers.

SamG76:
"Suppose a leading politician had laid a wreath for the perpetrators of the 7/7 bombings in London or the "martyrs" who carried out the London Bridge attack."

Havabiscuit:
"It’s hardly comparable is it?"

It's entirely comparable! Corbyn laid a wreath for the terrorists who killed innocent Israeli athletes in Munich.

Wrote about it himself just after, discussed it again last year, then bare-face lied about it today.

There's a picture of him right there, holding the wreath & praying after it had been laid, (but he 'doesn't remember being involved'....)

The Black September killers were in a different part of the cemetery.

Can't imagine everybody laying a wreath in Highgate is a Marxist.

I remember Munich well. It wasn’t in the U.K. and it wasn’t recent. There has been many a terrorist attack since and many a wreath laid since by lots of politicians. Thatcher supported the military dictator Pinochet.
I said before why are the right wing media trawling back through history to cherry pick stories on Corbyn supposed antsemitism? Regardless of the rights and wrongs don’t you smell an agenda? why are we so concerned here solely with the Israeli agenda?
I’m sure Corbyn lays wreaths for the Tolpuddle Martyrs. Bloody Criminal sympathiser!!!!

*Corbyn laid a wreath for the terrorists who killed innocent Israeli athletes in Munich.

Wrote about it himself just after, discussed it again last year, then bare-face lied about it today.

There's a picture of him right there, holding the wreath & praying after it had been laid, (but he 'doesn't remember being involved'....)*

Did he?
I've seen a photo of him laying a wreath, but it wasn't for any Black September member.
The cemetery has a plaque to one BS member in another section.

Those are the facts as I currently understand them.

There's a huge difference IMO between saying that you have sympathies for someone's position on an issue, and describing terrorists and terrorism enablers as "very good friends", "comrades" and "good" people

And despite them being terrorists, they were also (allegedly) executed by Mossad - against international law. These are crimes also.

He did write of his attendance at the laying of the wreath. It was not hidden or secretive. It was not brought up during the general election. It's brought up now because the media have an agenda. A justified one? maybe, maybe not.

They did the same with David Cameron and his Eton antics when it suited them. It's not necessarily wrong to bring up the past, but the media are very selective about which elements they bring up. Any grown-up ought to at least be aware of that!

Poor Jeremy Corbyn it must be getting really frustrating to keep ending up in the same place as anti semites. He must be thinking ‘oh no how has this happened again’ everytime he ends up next to someone who wants to push Israel into the sea. So unlucky.

I don't have to agree with everything he believes, but I can see a principled man

I'm assuming you'll say the same about JRM then?

There's a huge difference IMO between saying that you have sympathies for someone's position on an issue, and describing terrorists and terrorism enablers as "very good friends", "comrades" and "good" people.

You're probably right, but how do we describe Martin McGuinness now?
How will we describe Gerry Adams?
The adage of 'one man's freedom fighter is another man's terrorist' is a little glib, but it's a poignant one.

We have killed countless innocent people in the cause of a greater good. We've done it knowingly.

JRM?

JRM is not a principled man he is advising the country to do one thing while advising his shareholders to do the opposite.
Both sides are being pretty shit at the minute.

I've seen a photo of him laying a wreath, but it wasn't for any Black September member
The cemetery has a plaque to one BS member in another section

That's what I originally thought myself, but if you look at Bingpot's link at 16.50, with photos of what's where in the cemetary, it shines a rather different light on things

And yes, of course much of the media have an agenda on this ... but even faced with an agenda some of us prefer to know what's true and what isn't

*Corbyn laid a wreath for the terrorists who killed innocent Israeli athletes in Munich.

Wrote about it himself just after, discussed it again last year, then bare-face lied about it today.*

What did he write about it? I would be interested to see...

Thatcher supported the military dictator Pinochet

And May and her cronies are supplying arms to Israel and to the Middle east.

JRM?

Jacob Rees-Mogg. The thinking person's arsehole.

This has been known about for sometime and I am sure the DM ran this story at the last election

But Corbyn devotees excused his behaviour as apparently he is a man of peace

utter rubbish he chooses which side he is at peace with

He has to go now no one can defend him any longer

I don't see how laying some flowers can be seen as as bad as our government openly selling arms to Israel and condoning the murder of women, children and the elderly.

Very good point about Pinochet. This was a man who threw his opponents out of helicopters. A fine ally for a civilized country.

*That's what I originally thought myself, but if you look at Bingpot's link at 16.50, with photos of what's where in the cemetary, it shines a rather different light on things

And yes, of course much of the media have an agenda on this ... but even faced with an agenda some of us prefer to know what's true and what isn't*

Read that link - it did read a little like a conspiracy site. Yes I agree, knowing the truth is a good thing, and as facts emerge, we can form a different opinion, but currently, there's nothing to string him up with (imo). Monuments in Arabic aren't going to be understood by him (I wouldn't imagine).

I think the media are digging, and struggling. They are clearly coming up with stuff, but I am guessing this is the best they've mustered so far, and if it is the best they've got, it's not much. At least not to my mind.

Do tell me what JRM’s principles are - I’d lahve to know. He’s a dangerous idiot and everyone knows it.

I think this thread illustrates the issue with Corbyn. His supporters can't accept it when he gets it wrong and defend him to the death.

If you are not that invested in the issue, all you see is Corbyn being exposed as (I) best case scenario a bit evasive / forgetful of where he laid a wreath or (ii) worst case a terrorist sympathiser who has been caught telling porkies.

Either way - he comes across as pretty stupid and an incompetent politician. That won't convince anyone who unsure about Corbyn.