So he lied then

[Metoodear]

We’re are the calls for Corbyn and the rest of the any semites to step down

www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2018/08/13/jeremy-corbyn-admits-present-wreath-laid-munich-massacre-terrorists/

The silence speaks for it self

The problem with this story is it's been conflated with the Munich killings. Some want to claim he was commemorating a wreath for one of those terrorists, others are claiming he was laying a wreath for different people, and one of those terrorists had a monument in the vicinity of where he was.

He did write about his visit at the time, but he did NOT say he was laying a wreath for Black September member/s. He DID specifically say it was for others.
It's messy, maybe he shouldn't have done it, he wasn't the leader then, and maybe never expected to be, but that doesn't excuse him IF he's done something wrong.

But then we have to ask - what precisely has he done wrong?
And what if a politician doesn't believe the Israel solution is a solution? are they 'wrong' to hold that view? is it anti-semitic to side with a Palestinian view? Is it wrong to merely have sympathy for Palestine?

If I was a Brit in the 70's and 80's and sympathised with Ireland - I'd have faced a lot of backlash. Accused of being pro-IRA. Nowadays, that's less likely but back then...
I was too young then to have much of a view of the situation, but was anti-IRA because they seemed to be the terrorists (but I was ignorant of the opposing terrorism in NI).

If he's a supporter of Palestinians, I don't necessarily equate that with anti-Semitism, but I do know that if you're pro-Isreal, then anti-Semitism is precisely the accusation you'd lay at his door - because it's political dynamite.

I just can't believe people would rather chance having Boris as PM - the man is Steve Bannon's puppet. These are very worrying times.

Jacob Rees-Mogg. The thinking person's arsehole

Brilliant!!!

Are these people anti-semitic then?

I just can't believe people would rather chance having Boris as PM - the man is Steve Bannon's puppet. These are very worrying times.

Indeed. But a lot of people aren't too smart and think he's a bit of a laugh and makes 'gaffs'. They fail to see that he's actually very intelligent, and calculating to the point of psychopathy.

And I don't know what to think about the Corbyn story because I can't find a balanced reporting of the story. There's no such thing as an unbiased media anymore.

Well you could take his actual words for it from the Morning Star website, quoted in the article I linked to earlier. Where he explains he honoured the graves of those killed in the air strike, and others killed by Mossad in 1991. As in, a clear reference to the Black September terrorists. Are JC's own words unbiased enough for you?

And to answer PP, Medium is not a conspiracy site. Nice of you to throw out that old anti-Semitic trope to dismiss anything that doesn't sit with your view.

Gamerchick I did laugh that. So funny it keeps happening when all he wants to do is talk about peace

Nobody has to "think" whether they were involved in such a thing.

Would you have to say "I don't think I was involved" about something like this? No, fucking nobody would, you would KNOW you weren't or KNOW you were.

Laughable man.

Corbyn now having a twitter spat with Benjamin Netanyahu.

And the Labour Press Office twitter account doubling down on 'It's All Smears!'

Corbyn is a disgusting man.

Oh, and Corbyn doing the Muslim Brotherhood hand gesture at Finsbury Park Mosque?

Just wow.

Although I suppose he 'didn't really mean it', or was 'just showing solidarity with a brother' or 'just happened to be ordering four of something' or similar...

Nobody called it a conspiracy site.
I said it read like one, and it did.

where he explains he honoured the graves of those killed in the air strike, and others killed by Mossad in 1991. As in, a clear reference to the Black September terrorists.

Nobody here would have a clue about 1992 (the correct year) Mossad killings - were it not for recent press speculation about it. And even if he was present for an event that covered a Black September killing, what of it? Let us not forget, Mossad has carried out state sponsored assassinations of foreign soil - in the name of politics. A death at the hands of Mossad more forgivable than a death at the hands of a Palestinian organisation?

What we are doing is conflating the horrible terrorism in Munich, with commemorating deaths of some Palestinians, one of whom may have been part of Black September, and may or may not have been known to Corbyn at the time of laying a wreath. Has he deliberately honoured a terrorist? hmmm maybe, maybe not. Has he inadvertently done so? maybe, maybe not.
Can we deduce he's a Palestinian sympathiser? probably. So what?
Can we deduce he's anti-semitic? I doubt it.

Jeremy Corbyn is a Jew-hater? Don’t be ridiculous. Anyone who’d vote for the Trump-fluffing shower that is the Conservative party - that’s moronic.

If anyone's like Trump it's Corbyn.

"Fake News! Fake News!
I know you saw the picture, I know you read my words, I know you heard me say something... but it's Not True!
You may have seen me say/do those things but if I say now that I didn't then that's the New Truth!"

Seriously? wtaf

Jesus H. Christ . . .

Torn, you see it fit to compare the torture, castration and murder of innocent Israeli athletes to the assassination of murderous terrorists and ask if they're one and the same? The death of innocent people is not the same as the death of terrorists.

If Corbyn's actions pose no problem, then why doesn't he own up to them more honestly? Why the 'I don't remember if I was involved' line now. Why can't he come out and say yes I did this and it was the right thing to do? He doesn't say that though, despite being such a man of... principle.

They fail to see that he's actually very intelligent, and calculating to the point of psychopathy.

Exactly Bombadier

He's a buffoon - but an arrogant, cunning, self-promoting, egotistical, dangerous buffoon

If Corbyn's actions pose no problem, then why doesn't he own up to them more honestly?

Corbyn has always remained above the mud-slinging and personal vilification indulged in by many other politicians. Not joining in the playground bullying means that he finds himself being misrepresented and the subject of abuse. He never sinks to the level of his detractors.

He lets himself down sometimes because he places faith in people who let him down. He is loyal - often to his own disadvantage.

Yeah like when he printed Mrs abott just because she gave him a bit of hows your father back in the day

*Oh, and Corbyn doing the Muslim Brotherhood hand gesture at Finsbury Park Mosque?

Just wow.

Although I suppose he 'didn't really mean it', or was 'just showing solidarity with a brother' or 'just happened to be ordering four of something' or similar...*

Corbyn's been consistent in cosying up to anyone who kills British civilians, or for that matter American or Israeli ones. Be it Islamic fundamentalists, the Iranian state or the IRA, he seems to find people who bomb our kids seductive.

The reason trendy lefties are falling over themselves to defend him at every turn is that they are exactly the bloody same. Poor brave suicide bombers etc. Got to align yourself with people who attack your own because it's bloody edgy.

Torn, you see it fit to compare the torture, castration and murder of innocent Israeli athletes to the assassination of murderous terrorists and ask if they're one and the same? The death of innocent people is not the same as the death of terrorists.

Not exactly.
I argue that the murder of innocent athletes is horrific to our senses, but we will gloss over countless other innocent deaths carried out by states, including our own - in the name of a 'greater good'.
Innocents must die because 'we are right'. The question is - which side is right.
It is precisely the same with the IRA. They were fighting a cause. I do no agree with their methods (nor those of Unionists who also carried out terrorism). But as part of a peace process, there's a fair chance we could end up remembering all those who died - and in the process inadvertently including some who carried out acts of terror.

Corbyn claims he was remembering those killed - one of whom he may (or may not) have realised was a PLO leader alleged to have been part of Black September.
I don't know Corbyn's motives any more than anybody else does. It feels like an awful lot of supposition and trying to catch him out as an actual supporter (not sympathiser) and making out he's positively anti-semitic.

I can't bring myself to convict him of that based on the limited evidence I've seen. Some here evidently can.

"I argue that the murder of innocent athletes is horrific to our senses, BUT"

Yeah, there it is.

* He never sinks to the level of his detractors.*

Oh. Right. Which of course includes Jewish people legitimately concerned about antisemitism. Nice to know you place us a level beneath other people and underserving of the sort of dialogue JC prides himself on having with literally anyone but Jewish people.

"I argue that the murder of innocent athletes is horrific to our senses, BUT"

Yeah, there it is.*

Yep there it is - the actual argument that people are selectively picking a highly publicised, much emotive act of terrorism and completely overlooking plenty of others?
Something you disagree with there? Is that particular act of terrorism worse than others? How so?

Don't try to straw-man with 'there it is'. It's unbecoming.