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Hairless foofs

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Ginismyfriendx · 06/07/2018 01:02

So can't sleep and watching naked attraction (please do judge me, I deserve it)
Are completely bare foofs a thing now? Having had a nasty experience of an ingrown hair from shaving bikini line (which required anti-biotics) why go through that? Nevermind the faff. Who want's an evening shadow on their lady bits?
All for a bit of pruning, but uprooting?

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GirlfriendInAKorma · 06/07/2018 13:59

I've never had any major waxing down there. What actually happens?
Do you have to sit there with no pants on at all? How do they get to the hair that grows underneath?!
Oh god it makes me cringe so much even thinking about it.
I'm not embarrassed... just feel like that area is not to be shared with some random woman from the beauty salon down the street!
(Totally different from giving birth and having smear tests ... as they are medical and happen once in a blue moon).

yearofthewoman · 06/07/2018 14:07

The only person sexualising it us the person the wrote this. In your mind you may see it as a sexual thing. But that's because your mind is a little bit unhealthy and twisted.

Nope. It's because many men have minds that are unhealthy and twisted. Don't call me a pervert for noticing FFS.

yearofthewoman · 06/07/2018 14:11

Before anyone says it - NOT ALL MEN! - not even most men, think like this.

But there are enough men that fetishise young girls, for us to all know that girls not to be considered safe with strange men.

Don't you think some of those men have relationships with adult women? Or that for every man who actually offends, there might not be more who think it?

Child porn is a massive problem, are you aware of that? And, men who watch that stuff have sex with adult women.

This exists in our society. Why are you pretending it doesn't?

yearofthewoman · 06/07/2018 14:14

(Apologies for being so serious everyone, there was a lovely lighthearted tone earlier. But I do object to being called a pervert for recognising the perversions of others.)

BertrandRussell · 06/07/2018 14:25

Anybody who has even glanced at very mainstream porn will be aware that there is an appetite for young girls.

SoddingUnicorns · 06/07/2018 14:27

I’ve never seen porn, it’s not my thing for many reasons. The fact it has any bearing on what women do with our bodies is beyond fucking depressing though.

BertrandRussell · 06/07/2018 14:33

Porn’s not my thing either. But I felt I had to see what my children were likely going to access/be shown on phones. Two clicks to school uniforms. Oh, and the only female hair you see is on “old woman with massive bush” and similar.

SoddingUnicorns · 06/07/2018 14:38

Oh god that’s horrifying. I knew it was sleazy but that’s beyond sleazy, that’s sick as fuck.

I’ve firewalled the shit out of our kids devices, and they don’t use other ones so I guess I’m lucky in that respect.

user09876543211234567890 · 06/07/2018 14:41

SoddingUnicorns and BertrandRussell - I find it depressing too.

It also worries me deeply that if men and boys have easy access to porn depicting younger and younger women, then that will in turn shape their tastes, which will in turn lead to increasing volumes of child abuse.

SoddingUnicorns · 06/07/2018 14:42

I may be shot down here, but porn being anyone’s ideal of sex worries me a lot.

Isn’t most of it basically portraying women as a series of holes? (XH was a big porn fan) that can’t foster a healthy attitude towards women and sex surely?

RiddleyW · 06/07/2018 14:44

It is dirtier and sweatier to have hair, obviously. That's why i make sure my head is completely shaven.

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user09876543211234567890 · 06/07/2018 14:47

I agree SoddingUnicorns.

I wish with all my heart that porn hadn't become so acceptable / accessible and mainstream. I don't want my children and my children's partners to learn from it and to base their future sexual relationships on those models. But they will - and it's one of the most heartbreaking things about being a child in these times in my opinion.

WhenISnappedAndFarted · 06/07/2018 14:47

I always have removed everything, I'm just in the habit now. It was very popular when I was growing up and in school (I'm 29 now) and I think I've just continued to do so.

It wasn't anything to do with sexual partners either because this was well before I even had sex (years) and I wasn't interested in having a boyfriend at school.

SoddingUnicorns · 06/07/2018 14:49

user that is soul destroying when you put it like that.

I can only hope that at each stage of my children’s lives I (and DP) will have done enough to teach them that porn and all the associated shit that comes with it just isn’t real and that women are worth more than the sum of their orifices!

GfordMum101 · 06/07/2018 14:50

I am an unshaven lady. Just manage the muff with a bit of trim now and then. However, I am lucky in that I have very fine, very blond hair. Not much down there, and as a previous poster confirmed, the older you get, the less you have, it kind of gets rubbed away!! I think everyone to their own, and in their own circumstances. If you have very thick dark hair, manage periods with pads, and get sweaty, shaving is the way to go. My only concern is that teens now think it is ONLY acceptable to have a shaven muff, and that they know this to be true, as the boys have said so. This from my 15 year old DD who tried to have a debate about it, and was shouted down by the mob. I find that disturbing and sad, that girls that age think they do not have the choice, and that they are being dictated to by 15 year old boys. Just awful.

Thisnamechanger · 06/07/2018 14:53

I grew up in the first wave of easily available online porn and body hair was utterly demonised by girls and boys alike at school. I distinctly remember we'd shave everything, especially underarms red raw for fear of anyone spotting a hint of stubble.

Now I LOVE not shaving waxing. Free the fuzz! Grin

user09876543211234567890 · 06/07/2018 14:53

SoddingUnicorns I need to take a leaf out of your book and brave some conversations with my sons. I've been putting it off and worry I've left it too late but it needs to be done.

Might have to scour MN for some tips on how the hell to bring this up with a very shy and awkward DS.

HelenaDove · 06/07/2018 14:57

i use pads and have thick dark hair down there. i think the bath i have (two baths in this heat) every day is enough.

i wont be told or pressured into shaving simply because im performing a normal womanly function (bleeding) and cant use tampons.

SoddingUnicorns · 06/07/2018 15:00

I only have one approaching his teens (other two are still wee) and I got some great resources from his school about puberty, sexual feelings and most importantly appropriate behaviour and respect (he’s autistic so the school had resources age and understanding appropriate).

Consent is something I’ve always taught, no forcing of kisses or cuddles, the right to say no to being kissed or cuddled, that kind of thing.

I hope I’m doing it right, it’s very important that I do.

Thisnamechanger · 06/07/2018 15:00

I reckon I'd lose half a stone and be a size smaller if I got me a Hollywood GrinGrinGrinGrin

BertrandRussell · 06/07/2018 15:07

My children are older-one adult and one nearly there. Porn has been part of their lives-dd tells me that she was dumped for saying no to anal the first time she went to bed with one man. He just got dressed and left. I am absolutely sure that would not have happened pre Internet porn.

Thisnamechanger · 06/07/2018 15:08

I have it all covered in boiling wax and ripped from my flesh by a stranger.

Who then gives you a bill. Grin

SoddingUnicorns · 06/07/2018 15:09

Bertrand that’s horrendous. That’s what frightens me about having a daughter, that she’ll encounter men like that when she’s older.