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To think it's a bit pathetic to start a petition against the Tory/DUP coalition and the losing team should just accept it?

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Ravenblack · 10/06/2017 11:47

So now there's a petition against the Tory/DUP coalition!

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/election-results-dup-conservative-theresa-may-petition-deal-northern-ireland-a7783021.html

Why can people (generally left wing) not accept democratic decisions in this country? Labour LOST. Do people not get that? May might need to go into Coalition with the DUP to form a Government as she was 8 seats short of a majority, but she still got over FIFTY SEATS more than Corbyn. And Sturgeon slagging off Theresa May can pipe down too. SNP lost over 20 SEATS, (that went mostly to Conservative!!!) So she has no right to be up on the moral high ground!

Moreover, the whingeing left-wingers would not be moaning and griping if Labour had gone into a coalition with the DUP. It's a case of May can do no right in the eyes of some.

It was the same with the EU referendum. We're not happy with the democratic result of the people, so we will start a petition! And then it turned out 10's of 1000's of signatures were fake!

Why can people not just accept the result? Let's face it, if Corbyn had won, the people who aren't so keen on him would have sucked it up!

And also, let's not kid ourselves; Corbyn got many of his votes by promising the world on a plate, you name it, he was going to deliver it. Free this, free that, benefits for everyone, free uni fees, free school meals, bedroom tax gone, ESA assessments gone, benefit cap gone. Baby unicorns, and a million pounds for everyone!

No WAY would he have been able to deliver what he was promising, and many people know that.

Then after 5 years of undoing EVERYTHING the Conservatives have done, the economy would be screwed, Conservatives would have got back in, and they would have had to spend five years sorting it out. Leaving us in a worse position than we are in now. Do people not get that? Are they so blindsided by this ruggedly handsome urban hero promising the world, that they can't see what a monumental fuck up he would have made of the economy?

I think the young were entranced by him, as he became an urban hero, and was engaging and charming and likeable, whilst May was awkward and stiff. Anyone who said anything against Corbyn, and showed support for May was lambasted.

This ludicrous petition is not going to change anything. Conservatives won. They are going to go into a coalition with the DUP. May is not going to resign. Deal with it.

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squoosh · 12/06/2017 13:02

They prob want assurances that the Orange Order can march down the Garvaghy Road this July 12th.

Mummyoflittledragon · 12/06/2017 13:17

Why would Sinn Fein seek such assurances squoosh?

seoulsurvivor · 12/06/2017 13:19

badbadkitten I hope they dubbed him.

squoosh · 12/06/2017 13:20

Why would Sinn Fein seek such assurances squoosh?

Obv I meant the DUP.

makeourfuture · 12/06/2017 13:22

I suspect the talks with the DUP aren't going quickly. That suggests complexity

Shouldn't we be allowed to know what is being promised?

Mummyoflittledragon · 12/06/2017 13:23

Ok I was rather confused. I read it as a response to the pp talking about GA being on tv.

AwaywiththePixies27 · 12/06/2017 13:23

Oh dear. Still at least the country's still focused on the opposition leader...

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/orange-order-portadown-northern-ireland-dup-use-banned-drumcree-march-negotiations-with-theresa-may-a7785026.html

OhYouBadBadKitten · 12/06/2017 13:24

He was gathered with what he called the 'magnificent seven' (his mps) Seoul. It was fascinating to watch the body language as he spoke.

I do think that the DUP will be asking for deals to do with a softer Brexit. That conflicts me. Deals with the devil in order to obtain something I'd like to see. Oh dear.

OhYouBadBadKitten · 12/06/2017 13:25

makeourfuture, clarity and openeness isn't something TM believes in.

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 12/06/2017 13:29

Interestingly, the BBC are reporting that the Queen's speech, which should have been next Monday, is to be postponed 'by a few days' - suggesting that the speech is being rewritten in the light if the election results and any deal with the DUP.

squoosh · 12/06/2017 13:32

Purely because there's a shortage of vellum apparently...

yerbutnobut · 12/06/2017 15:48

Not pathetic to want 'rights' and you are very naive to think May not going anywhere, we will see....

HelenaDove · 12/06/2017 16:41

A girl in NI was not only denied an abortion. She was then sectioned.

www.the-pool.com/news-views/latest-news/2017/24/a-girl-in-ireland-was-denied-an-abortion-and-then-sectioned

OhYouBadBadKitten · 12/06/2017 20:58

Really not buying the vellum shortage idea. They've had 6 weeks to find some and it could be transferred to vellum when they have some.

noblegiraffe · 12/06/2017 21:13

"I was Director of the @UKParlArchives for 6 years and I can tell you that the Queen's Speech is not made of parchment, goat or otherwise."

Says twitter.

OhYouBadBadKitten · 12/06/2017 21:17

so who is spreading this ridiculous rumor? are we supposed to believe it?

GardenGeek · 12/06/2017 23:42

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SomeOtherFuckers · 13/06/2017 00:00

But it wasn't voted for ... the Torys were ....

FloralTribute · 13/06/2017 00:05

Garden, Savita Halappanavar was a dentist in her early 30s. Her needless death, and the fudged legal situation that led to it, was utterly appalling, but she wasn't a child refugee , or a rape victim.

Fab39ish · 13/06/2017 07:28

And now someone had linked a Sun petition about students voting in their home and university constituency. Now I seriously doubt there is any truth in it but isn't it a bit pathetic to start s petition op.

Fab39ish · 13/06/2017 08:01

Although the guy who tweeted that he voted twice for Labour had admitted on his twitter page that it was a joke. How thick are sun readers?

NotAMammy · 13/06/2017 20:37

*HelenaDove
A girl in NI was not only denied an abortion. She was then sectioned.

www.the-pool.com/news-views/latest-news/2017/24/a-girl-in-ireland-was-denied-an-abortion-and-then-sectioned*
This was in Ireland, not Northern Ireland. There is also very little information released about this case so I would be hesitant of putting a spin on it at this stage.

GardenGeek · 13/06/2017 21:14

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Ceto · 14/06/2017 00:32

There's a decision due today in the Supreme Court appeal about NHS charging for abortions for Northern Ireland women. If the appellants win, the prospect of the NHS offering abortions without charge could provide a very interesting test for the new alliance.

LassWiTheDelicateAir · 14/06/2017 01:46

A girl in NI was not only denied an abortion. She was then sectioned

This happend in Dublin.

www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/girl-sectioned-after-psychiatrist-ruled-out-abortion-1.3116111?mode=amp

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