To think it's a bit pathetic to start a petition against the Tory/DUP coalition and the losing team should just accept it?

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So now there's a petition against the Tory/DUP coalition!

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/election-results-dup-conservative-theresa-may-petition-deal-northern-ireland-a7783021.html

Why can people (generally left wing) not accept democratic decisions in this country? Labour LOST. Do people not get that? May might need to go into Coalition with the DUP to form a Government as she was 8 seats short of a majority, but she still got over FIFTY SEATS more than Corbyn. And Sturgeon slagging off Theresa May can pipe down too. SNP lost over 20 SEATS, (that went mostly to Conservative!!!) So she has no right to be up on the moral high ground!

Moreover, the whingeing left-wingers would not be moaning and griping if Labour had gone into a coalition with the DUP. It's a case of May can do no right in the eyes of some.

It was the same with the EU referendum. We're not happy with the democratic result of the people, so we will start a petition! And then it turned out 10's of 1000's of signatures were fake!

Why can people not just accept the result? Let's face it, if Corbyn had won, the people who aren't so keen on him would have sucked it up!

And also, let's not kid ourselves; Corbyn got many of his votes by promising the world on a plate, you name it, he was going to deliver it. Free this, free that, benefits for everyone, free uni fees, free school meals, bedroom tax gone, ESA assessments gone, benefit cap gone. Baby unicorns, and a million pounds for everyone!

No WAY would he have been able to deliver what he was promising, and many people know that.

Then after 5 years of undoing EVERYTHING the Conservatives have done, the economy would be screwed, Conservatives would have got back in, and they would have had to spend five years sorting it out. Leaving us in a worse position than we are in now. Do people not get that? Are they so blindsided by this ruggedly handsome urban hero promising the world, that they can't see what a monumental fuck up he would have made of the economy?

I think the young were entranced by him, as he became an urban hero, and was engaging and charming and likeable, whilst May was awkward and stiff. Anyone who said anything against Corbyn, and showed support for May was lambasted.

This ludicrous petition is not going to change anything. Conservatives won. They are going to go into a coalition with the DUP. May is not going to resign. Deal with it.

What have you done about the Hamas supporter funding? What have you done about the Hamas, Hezbollah and IRA connections?

Yep, typical Corbynite behaviour as seen all over social media.

Jonathan Ashworth said this morning that Labour would work with the DUP in a minority government

They wouldn't. They categorically stated no coalitions. Bloody Jezza, what with his new found principles and whatnot.

I agree with aboynamedsue

No one is calling you goady for having an opinion or stating it

People are calling you goady because you are inferring that they are liars and have no principles

Maybe if you did a little research instead of reading the Daily Mail you'd realise that nothing needed to be done.

HTH

boynamedsue I think it was originally intended as an insult but the left just took it and ran with it and made it their own.

It's a bit like when people call you a leftie on twitter and you're meant to be highly offended by it. Being called a Corbynite is just a more current twist on it.

Corbyn is not setting up government with any of those groups.

He has gone on record many times explaining his views about using dialogue to resolve situations. I doubt he's perfect, he's been in politics for a zillion years. TM is a huge Saudi collaborator. The government of the time was talking to parties in NI.

But TM is setting the government up with the DUP. That is entirely different. If JC did that, I'd have a massive issue with it. I don't understand what you're not getting?

Thanks pixies, it's just a pet hate of mine. Even Brexit makes me cross (the word not actual brexit, although that makes me cross too )

I would be just as concerned Labour went into coalition with DUP.

I would be just as concerned Labour went into coalition with DUP.

I'll try and embrace being a corbynite as I do being a leftie.

I think it's pretty clear the 'goady' shit started before people told me that they would be protesting Corbyn's potential involvement with the DUP, seeing as that post came first.

Boynamedsue - feel free to AS me on here if you can be bothered. You'll find that less than 18 months ago I was on here defending Corbyn. Do you know what I did then? I saw the accusations about Corbyn's past and did my research, mainly to get sources to prove his detractors wrong. They weren't wrong. By the way, I've never read that rag in my life. If you do AS, you'll find my opinions on that too. Thanks for adding 'Daily Mail reader' to the checklist of silly insults and dismissals.

WinnieFosterTether has it.

This thread is filled with comments which are mind bogglingly stupid unless you view them through the prism of blind party loyalty.

The 'whataboutary' is predictable and dull.
If labour had tried to form a minority government with Sinn Fein then posters on here would, quite rightly, be horrified by the precarious position in which that act placed the whole status of NI politic and the GFA

Pretending this shameful haggling with the DUP is just fine is pretty contemptible.

Some of you should drop the party line and consider the status of peace in Ireland. Sometimes there are bigger fish to fry.

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mainly to get sources to prove his detractors wrong

This is exactly what i was trying to do with clinton during the American election (in her case it was bullshit)

Could you point me in the direction of the information you found about corbyn....please and thank you

Any political party making themselves dependent upon the good will of one of the main parties in NI is irresponsible.

It's not a party issue. It's something that they should step back from. The peace is too fragile.

Fair enough, no need for an AS, I'll take your word for it and apologise for calling you a daily mail reader.

But you're happily making assumptions about all of us Corbyn supporters and how we would react in a situation and completely unwilling to accept us telling you otherwise. What makes you think you know how I would react better than I do?

Pretending this shameful haggling with the DUP is just fine is pretty contemptible.

Indeed.

That bloody leftie George Osborne daring to speak his own mind and call her a dead woman walking (politically speaking) says it all. It's only totally the left that have a problem with this set up. Only them.

Thanks pixies, it's just a pet hate of mine. Even Brexit makes me cross (the word not actual brexit, although that makes me cross too grin

Understood. Just embrace it. They can't use it against you then. Well they can but you wont give a shit.

It's not a party issue. It's something that they should step back from. The peace is too fragile.

This x1000.

Thank you. Didn't know that Ashworth had said that. Quite frankly I a surprised.

The 'whataboutary' is predictable and dull.
If labour had tried to form a minority government with Sinn Fein then...

A wee bit of irony there, Pagwatch as that's one bit of whataboutery that's likely to only ever be hypothetical :o

Just to add that I do agree with you, though.

What is most worrying here is that May is so desperate to have the DUP on board that she's making premature announcements. It really is looking like she is more desperate for a formal alliance of some sort than they are and is throwing all caution aside as a consequence. That will piss people off outside of the UK mainland.

RufusTheRenegadeReindeer - this is a new laptop so I haven't got my old links in the history but I have a couple of images of old articles - one paints Corbyn in a good light but still mentions his activities with convicted IRA bombers, and Kinnock's anger with Corbyn in another. It's apparently Corbyn in a photo at a Troops Out rally - I haven't got the link to that source but it was from someone who discredited the picture that showed Corbyn at an IRA funeral but said that was real. There are several references to Donald Dewar disciplining Corbyn over his IRA involvement in political biographies such as Alastair Campbell's diaries (would ref more books but cba going downstairs to check). Corbyn's support for Patrick Magee and Martina Anderson, and his association with Sal Jenkinson and Troops Out were reported in several contemporary articles, as was his yearly attendance at the Sands/Connolly memorials. Criticism of Corbyn for his IRA association goes back decades.