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Trump's remarkably quiet on Twitter. I was waiting for FAKE NEWS!!! but nothing

Give him time. He's not woken up yet. I'm sure he'll oblige soon enough.

I have to post today to ask, in a tiny naive, hopeful voice... does anyone think this is 'it'? The smoking gun I've been hoping (OK, praying!) for? Is this enough to get the rats to desert the sinking ship and pile on the pressure for a resignation or (holy grail) impeachment?
Still not there. Yet. Republicans still seem to be supporting, though not perhaps as vigorously as before. It still needs something else to happen. Be patient. It will take longer than you think if it does happen (and still no guarantee it will).

Remember Trump will never resign. Trump has his own security guards - loyal to him not the State - to protect him. Even if he is impeached and/or there is an arrest warrant for him, how do you think that will go? The answer is not well. It will require logistics.... No prizes for guessing what type. Go with those movies and think 'shoot out', and then think about reaction from the public, particularly his supporters.

There will have to be a near complete public opposition to Trump to avoid creating a situation which will destabilise the county. The good news is however that 78% of the US population now support an independent investigation into Russia / Trump. So we are not far off the optimal point where something can be done as a core will not change their minds.

I suspect a few more leaks to discredit him even further will be the order of the day. Just to make sure there is no chance of a public backlash. And to put pressure on those Republicans who are still supporting him.

Exactly. To react to something implies that you must know there is a specific threat. The only way you can know there is a specific threat is if you have managed to get direct intelligence about the threat.

I guess it's a dilemma. If you have specific intelligence, how do you react to the threat without showing you have specific intelligence and a source.

Something the Allies faced in WW2.

That's interesting Red. And I do think that when the writing's on the wall, some of his Aides will jump ship to save their own skin. Then capitalise on that.

I meant to post this yesterday but it all kicked off!

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Interesting, Perking--on the SA links. I wonder how much Russian money goes throught there?

This is pithy:

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The vast analytic powers of the world are focused on a mind with no analytical content, writes @DavidBrooks nyti.ms/2raoGeW

....there is perpetually less to Trump than it appears....

Reports of Trump sharing classified information point to growing fear of him.

Deserves a medal?

That was actually in connection with a sentence at the end of the piece.

"But with Trump, it's possible the leaker deserves the Medal of Freedom."

He's tweeting again.

He's back...

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...to terrorism and airline flight safety. Humanitarian reasons, plus I want Russia to greatly step up their fight against ISIS & terrorism.

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As President I wanted to share with Russia (at an openly scheduled W.H. meeting) which I have the absolute right to do, facts pertaining....

Oh my...he is admitting it on Twitter!

He's spinning it.

This is not good.

Israeli officials reportedly worried

Is it wrong that I'm impressed he's used the word "pertaining"?

Someone else would have used the words, Perking. And, for some reason, they stuck.

Sorry. Pain.

If Obama had done one quarter of that which 45 has admitted to, I would have assumed that his drink had been spiked.

The tweets do sound strangely formal, though. I think he wrote them, but very carefully. And with some resignation (in the sense 'Oh, I have to do this, don't I).

And this is the man that purports to 'negotiate' with other countries on behalf of the US. Lordy.

I think someone helped him with the tweets. Jared?

I don't know, Claws. I can't imagine a single one of his 'advisers' that would not have told him to keep his mouth shut on the issue.

They sound like him-him to me, saffron.

Trying to sound 'posh' admittedly.

It's his modus operandi, Cozie. If he doesn't tweet something on the issue, people will all is not right. It doesn't have to be the truth. Or, it can be the truth, and we won't know it, as he's the quintessential boy who cried wolf - or man who cried 'fake!' It reassures his fan base, reassures himself, and the news cycle starts anew.