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Orlantina · 12/05/2017 18:49

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AcrossthePond55 · 15/05/2017 13:52

I worry that wishful thinking with regard to Trump's downfall makes us more likely to believe whatever seems to chip away at his Empire and his minions

I hear you, lion. It happens with me already. For example, the recent tweets about sealed indictments by Mensch and TrueFacts. For a few minutes I clung to it like a life raft, but then realized that I needed to research and try to take emotion out of it. After doing that I realized that it was very likely unreliable information and I needed to 'ramp it down'.

Clinging to rumor as truth can make you relax just when you need to be the most vigilant. Wars have been lost from this.

cozietoesie · 15/05/2017 13:53

There's an interesting quote from Mr Keynes.

'To see the British Prime Minister watching the company, with six or seven senses not available to ordinary men, judging character, motive, and subconscious impulse, perceiving what each was thinking and even what each was going to say next, and compounding with telepathic instinct the argument or appeal best suited to the vanity, weakness, or self-interest of his immediate auditor, was to realize that the poor President would be playing blind man's bluff in that party.'

OK - those were different people because he said that a good century or so ago. But the stakes - for the whole world - are now much higher. And yet we have 45 'negotiating'?...................

cozietoesie · 15/05/2017 13:55

At least you two are aware of it, Across?

AcrossthePond55 · 15/05/2017 14:06

True, cozie. But I hate that emotional roller coaster!

DH has signed us both up for volunteer work with Common Cause. I think actually getting involved and doing something (besides marching) will channel that energy usefully rather than having it rattle around in my head attaching itself to rumours Grin

cozietoesie · 15/05/2017 14:15

Good for you two. Smile

lionheart · 15/05/2017 14:50

I am the same, especially with Mensch and others. Just been reading about how Airforce 1 is grounded 'ahead' of Trump's first foreign visits. The leap is to go from there to saying he is travelling to countries with no extradition treaties with the US.

I love to think of him fleeing on a plane, probably clutching a box of swag looted from the White House.

lionheart · 15/05/2017 14:51

Yes, doing stuff is the best way forward.

Rumour and speculation not always good for the soul.

cozietoesie · 15/05/2017 14:56

Remember. 2018. Smile

PerkingFaintly · 15/05/2017 15:37

Blimey, that Politico piece lionheart linked on manipulation is quite something.

Obviously like all stories it may not be 100% accurate, but if it's even halfway true...

cozietoesie · 15/05/2017 15:52

Apart from China of course. Grin

TheNorthWestPawsage · 15/05/2017 15:55

Please, please tell me it's true! Is this the beginning of the end...???
]www.rawstory.com/2017/05/morning-joe-says-fbi-close-to-exposing-the-president-its-a-criminal-issue-and-trump-knows-that/#.WRmuIUCevS8.twitter

cozietoesie · 15/05/2017 15:58

I'm desperately inclined to paraphrase Churchill on this one.

We 'might' be witness to the end of the beginning. Wink

TheNorthWestPawsage · 15/05/2017 16:03

Yes Cozie you're probably correct. But we shall overcome! Smile

cozietoesie · 15/05/2017 16:33

Indeed. And you could always take a look at this

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OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 15/05/2017 16:45

I know this isn't that significant in the scheme of things but I really enjoy watching Lawrence O'Donnell and would miss his take on things. Plus I had no idea he was a producer of the west wing!

thehill.com/homenews/media/333411-lawrence-odonnell-may-be-out-at-msnbc-in-june-report?amp

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 15/05/2017 16:55

Ann Coulter trashes Trump: 'This is the great negotiator?'

thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/333388-ann-coulter-trashes-trump-this-is-the-great-negotiator?amp

MrsT2007 · 15/05/2017 16:59

I think Claude Taylor says 6 months minimum, up to two years before this is all over with.

He's generally taken to being quite a lot more sane than LM though I do think she has had some gens. We just watch her entire process online. Sometimes it's s random rabbit hole that leads nowhere. That's investigative journalism though, isn't it?

It's definitely a long term thing. If the underlying foundations of us politics are as shaky as they seem it'll take a long time to realign everything

illegitimateMortificadospawn · 15/05/2017 17:19

Is anyone still following the Rogue POTUS staff twitter feed? I've not looked for ages.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 15/05/2017 17:25

They're currently decrying Mensch!

Roussette · 15/05/2017 17:27

@Matthewamiller
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It's beyond gross to show up at an event memorializing fallen officers and use it as a chance to attack your opponents. Trump has no honor.

God he is a tool isn't he...

Lweji · 15/05/2017 17:27

@CNN
Pres. Trump: I will always support the incredible men and women in law enforcement as much as you have supported me t.co/7Opxj7phOB

What does this mean? Hmm

And why, oh why, does it always have to refer go him? This was about fallen officers! SAD!!!

AcrossthePond55 · 15/05/2017 17:28

Ann Coulter getting off the Trump Train? It was only a week ago or so that she defended him on The View as a 'bullshitter, not a liar' and referred to him as an 'Emperor God'.

RoguePOTUSStaff is absolutely denying Mensch's assertion;

twitter.com/RoguePOTUSStaff/status/864131861819293698

Holy Crow!!! Trump TV???!!! Hopefully someone will challenge this in court under the Monopoly laws. There's a limit to how many media outlets one person/company is allowed to own.

cozietoesie · 15/05/2017 17:30

The thing with investigative journalism, though, MrsT, is that while there are frequently rabbit holes, said journalists generally keep quiet until they've scoped things out. (Or 'indicate the limitations' if the matter is time-critical.) I'm not sure that Ms M does either?

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 15/05/2017 17:31

thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/333396-morning-joe-hosts-kellyanne-conway-secretly-hates-trump?amp

'Morning Joe' hosts: Conway secretly hates Trump

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