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To wonder how males are allowed to compete and win in female sports

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Bambambini · 06/03/2017 21:56

NZ weight lifter Tracey Lebrechts has had her nationsl records broken and her place in the National team taken by a male Laurel Hubbard - previously Gavin. How is this fair and just why is this allowed?

www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/sport/other/nz-weightlifting-body-stands-decision-let-first-transgender-weightlifter-compete

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Keeptrudging · 07/03/2017 00:30

DD plays rugby. Girls rugby, against girls. It's already potentially dangerous without her having to play against boys/men when she's older. It would force the end of the sport.

Bambambini · 07/03/2017 10:28

Keep - this is Rugby playing TW Caroline Layt's personal account on her femsle rugby playing experience. Layt feels aggrieved that she wasn't welcomed the way she expected. Also her biews on women who don't agree with her.

"I’d go as far to say that some TERFs possibly have penis envy? Quite possibly a few even secretly want to be male, but they don’t have the courage to be transgender, because you see transitioning is tough and expensive and it means turning your whole life upside down, with the risk of losing everything you hold dear, including your credibility and standing in society, your family and friends, your employment and the way others view you."

carolinelayt.tumblr.com/post/150343141737/now-i-know-why-i-was-so-hated-i-was-bullied

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VestalVirgin · 07/03/2017 10:38

This disgusting male accuses women of "penis envy", while full well knowing that his male musculature and bone structure is what gives him a massive advantage over the women, and certainly is the only thing they are jealous of, not his gross penis. (Which I assume he kept? Ugh.)

This is disgusting and wrong, and I don't get how anyone can be so brainwashed as to think it is okay.

I guess we now all have to stop making jokes of the East German female swimmers who looked like men, because that's the new normal now. (Except not really, because women still aren't allowed to take testosterone for that sweet, sweet male muscle advantage. Only men are allowed to.)

We are back to the times where women could not go out because no public toilets, and were not allowed to participate in professional sports at all. That's where we will be in ten years if not enough women wake up now.

NootNoot · 07/03/2017 10:42

That's not ok, especially in a sport like weight lifting where testosterone gives you a MASSIVE advantage. Sigh.......

scottishdiem · 07/03/2017 10:46

What is interesting is that sports don't like it when women go the other way. Look at the case of Mack Beggs. Lots of testosterone involved there.

UnderCrackers5 · 07/03/2017 10:46

eight of Irans womens football team have willies. worlds gone mad

Honeybee79 · 07/03/2017 10:49

Hedgehog - that's really interesting, thanks for the info.

Bambambini · 07/03/2017 10:56

When i've questioned TW/TGs taking part in womens/girls sports, taking places, taking prizes/medals etc - i've often got the response that winning doesn't matter and that that is a mean spirited view to put winning/competition above allowing TW/TGs the chance to compete and take part. I don't think some folk take women's sports seriously.

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Pollypickypocket · 07/03/2017 10:57

Oh please - us girlies shouldn't be interested in sport anyway and now all these lovely men are going to make training for anything fucking pointless anyway.

WorldWideWish · 07/03/2017 10:58

YANBU

WorldWideWish · 07/03/2017 11:00

This will kill women's sport if it goes unchecked Sad

jay55 · 07/03/2017 11:08

We need a whole new sportsperson classification system, if para sports can classify competitors by disibility severity, why can't other sports people be classified by testosterone levels.

I hate men competing in women's sport.

Popskipiekin · 07/03/2017 11:11

Thank you for highlighting this OP. It's dreadful. Have been reading more about the weightlifter Tracey whose place in the 90kg+ team was stolen by a man. Tracey has had to lose 17kg in order to compete in a lower weight class. Just reading this (a link to a NZ herald article) - a very humbling attitude from her.

WorldWideWish · 07/03/2017 11:15

Please tell me what I can do about this. Is there a live petition dealing with this issue? It's just wrong!

Trifleorbust · 07/03/2017 11:15

Oh not this again Hmm

Keeptrudging · 07/03/2017 11:15

Bambambini, that article ShockShockShock! His sense of entitlement and sheer bloody ego are huge. He may have transitioned, but he still has all the tone in his words, (and muscle) of a man. Don't get me wrong, he sounds like a man who has loved sport all his life, and should be able to carry on playing sport as a transwoman, just not at the expense of women Angry!

He's so incredibly full of himself about all the events he's won/sporting success he's had since he transitioned. All at the expense of women who have been training all their lives. Makes my blood boil. As for being beaten up by his teammates, perhaps they were pissed off at having unknowingly been sharing changing rooms/showers/intimate details with a man (who was quite possibly getting off on it).

RainbowJack · 07/03/2017 11:16

Bloody outrageous.

What's the point in women even competing if this is the way it's going to go Angry

DJBaggySmalls · 07/03/2017 11:18

YANBU, its disgusting.

venusinscorpio · 07/03/2017 11:18

Oh not this again

I know. It's almost like you had no way of avoiding this thread. As you obviously wanted to do.

derxa · 07/03/2017 11:29

It's bloody awful

Soubriquet · 07/03/2017 11:33

Don't forget you have the transwoman boxer too.

A legal way for a man to beat the shit out of a woman's and be supported for it, hell even cheered on for it

Keeptrudging · 07/03/2017 11:39

What really pisses me off, is that before all this radical transactivism, I was the most 'live and let live' person ever. I couldn't have cared less if someone wanted to dress as a woman/man/goat. I probably wouldn't have even cared if a transwoman used the same toilets (if they weren't being inappropriate). I understood that people might feel misgendered etc.

Not now. Now I feel like I'm fighting against them. I'm not comfortable with this either, but I have a very sporty DD who may well be seriously injured by changes to sports rules etc.

STFU · 07/03/2017 11:41

@Jellybellyqueen

And how is that then?

DJBaggySmalls · 07/03/2017 11:53

Theres a brief interview worth reading with female MMA fighter Tamikka Brents, She describes her experience of fighting Trans competitor Fallon Fox.
The referee had to stop the bout, and Tamikka had a broken eye socket.

thelibertarianrepublic.com/transgender-mma-fighter-destroys-female-opponent/

JonesyAndTheSalad · 07/03/2017 11:54

Does Laurel have a penis?