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All things reality with Trump, maybe not so beautiful now!

974 replies

Roussette · 21/01/2017 14:40

Here we are!

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Roussette · 25/01/2017 11:52

Exactly Lweji. I want the previous inhabitants of the load of threads supporting Trump to read that Adam Khan's twitter feed and defend DT on facts. Not alternative facts, not rhetoric, not opinion but written facts.

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Spudlet · 25/01/2017 12:02

4 days in and it's getting scary. Arresting journalists... not good. Sad

Am loving the rogue park rangers though!

amispartacus · 25/01/2017 12:04

So what will happen at today's press briefing. I wonder what vocal UK supporters think. You can see how people close their eyes to things when the dictator is doing some things they approve of.

amispartacus · 25/01/2017 12:06

We will need a new thread. These are serious times

BoreOfWhabylon · 25/01/2017 12:10

Serious times indeed.

I think we need a rolling thread for the whole of his tenure, at least.

InformalRoman · 25/01/2017 12:16

The Orange Loon is tweeting again ...

I will be asking for a major investigation into VOTER FRAUD, including those registered to vote in two states, those who are illegal and....

even, those registered to vote who are dead (and many for a long time). Depending on results, we will strengthen up voting procedures!

So that's who voted for him ... dead people.

MsHooliesCardigan · 25/01/2017 12:19

Jesus, the man is completely unhinged. Donald,you WON. Just shut up about it. Can you imagine how he would have reacted if he'd lost?

Lweji · 25/01/2017 12:22

I hope Kaija doesn't mind. Here's from Trump (Part 4):

Kaija Tue 06-Dec-16 13:55:09
Or alternatively:

"people think that fascism arrives in fancy dress
worn by grotesques and monsters
as played out in endless re-runs of the Nazis.

Fascism arrives as your friend.
It will restore your honour,
make you feel proud,
protect your house,
give you a job,
clean up the neighbourhood,
remind you of how great you once were,
clear out the venal and the corrupt,
remove anything you feel is unlike you...

It doesn't walk in saying,
"Our programme means militias, mass imprisonments, transportations, war and persecution.""

--------------------

At least until it's in power...

Lweji · 25/01/2017 12:22

So that's who voted for him ... dead people.

He did ask for the terminally ill to vote for him.

MoonriseKingdom · 25/01/2017 12:30

This thread started out funny (MN has all the best words) but I am glad it is continuing to highlight things that are happening. We live in scary times.

BoreOfWhabylon · 25/01/2017 12:30

Alt US National Parks followers now more than 162,000 and still climbing.
Was 123,000 when I first looked 4 hours ago.

Formerpigwrestler9 · 25/01/2017 12:36

He has appealed to the pissed off and socio economically disadvantaged iin the US and convinced them that he will advocate in their interests

But its kinda sorta looking like he's not really working for America at all

Formerpigwrestler9 · 25/01/2017 12:40

MAGA was just to appeal to people who want to somehow go back to the (mythological) good old days whilst keeping all the benefits of modern life
A fairy tale

BigBadgers · 25/01/2017 12:40

The national park thread is in the guardian. I am glad it is getting exposure as I am a bit worried for the people running it. The more people who notice if it disappears the better.

The arrests of journalists is a crossed line to me. Freedom of the press is a vital pillar of democracy. Once we start locking up journalists just for being at and reporting on a protest we are getting into serious dictatorship.

Roussette · 25/01/2017 12:45

Yes, he asked voters to get of their death beds and vote for him. I honestly think this banging on about illegal voters is a cover up for what he is actually doing.

His Chicago tweet worries me. How does threatening to 'send in the Feds' help? Various people of Chicago have talked about a corrupt police force which ... if the orange one's WH posting after the inauguration is anything to go by, wouldn't worry him.... he said the public don't have enough respect for the Police.

This press cutting...
"Less than two weeks ago, the US Justice Department published a damning report on the Chicago Police, accusing them of regularly using force which was “unjustified, disproportionate and otherwise excessive.”

“Chicago Police Department (CPD) engages in a pattern or practice of using force, including deadly force, in violation of the Fourth Amendment of the Constitution,” the DOJ said in the report. The report stated that Chicago Police have unfairly targeted minorities and used “unreasonable force” on predominantly black and Latino neighborhoods, causing a breakdown in police-community trust.

“The city fails to investigate the majority of cases it is required to investigate by law,” the DOJ said. It also pointed out that, even when an investigation is launched, it is “aimed at eliciting information favorable to the officer.”

Shall I start a new thread before I go off to do a bit of work later this afternoon... I think we need it!

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ChuffChu · 25/01/2017 12:47

Lweji I definitely knew it was a possibility.

But I naively hoped it was just an act. That's how I comforted myself.

No pretending now is there.

Lweji · 25/01/2017 12:48

Various people of Chicago have talked about a corrupt police force

In that respect, maybe the "Feds" could sort it out. Arrest police officers instead of journalists, for example.
It all depends on what orders they'd have.
Considering Comey, I wouldn't put much faith in them, though.

Lweji · 25/01/2017 12:49

ChuffCh

Sometimes it's awful to be right.

birdybirdywoofwoof · 25/01/2017 12:53

I hope pressure is still being put on him about his taxes. I worry the focus on his smaller lies - however revealing and wrong - obscure his massive lies.

Roussette · 25/01/2017 12:53

Here's another one...
twitter.com/ungaggedEPA

Environmental Protection Agency who've also been gagged

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SanFranBear · 25/01/2017 13:18

Every day I just sit here like this > ShockAngrySad

MrWriter · 25/01/2017 13:34

Back in the office today and getting a chance to catch up with this thread. Scary scary times ahead.

I hope the American public are able to wake up the rest of the nation and evict this tiny handed terror before he causes too much damage.

OhYouBadBadKitten · 25/01/2017 13:38

No, there is no pretending now. Gag orders, journalists being arrested, walls going up, talk of military parades and strengthening the armed forces. How quickly the US is becoming walled in.

nauticant · 25/01/2017 13:39

I will be asking for a major investigation into VOTER FRAUD, including those registered to vote in two states, those who are illegal and...

This could be a smart (but ultimately short-term and damaging) move by Trump. All he has to do is find some instances of fraud in votes for Clinton and he can declare "see, the other side got their total number because of fraud" and then just shout down any response that this doesn't change the popular vote result. Anyone who thinks will be unconvinced but then Trump's pitch will just be to his supporters and they'll lap it up if it's shouted loud enough.