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All things reality with Trump, maybe not so beautiful now!

974 replies

Roussette · 21/01/2017 14:40

Here we are!

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Destinysdaughter · 25/01/2017 13:39

This is just so awful. We've all enjoyed making fun of him but what he's doing is deadly serious.

And this is just the start of it! 😱

OhYouBadBadKitten · 25/01/2017 13:40

Yes please to a new thread.

amispartacus · 25/01/2017 13:41

Gag orders, journalists being arrested, walls going up, talk of military parades and strengthening the armed forces

Military parades? What - with missiles and tanks?

Wow...

OhYouBadBadKitten · 25/01/2017 13:42

We had so many threads in the politics section over run with political trolls. I began to despair that it was impossible to have a conversation about this. Im so glad to see all you lovely people on here posting sanity.

Lweji · 25/01/2017 13:44

The sad thing is that many people will be happy with this.

They will wee those journalists as spreading fake news, EPA being for a Global Warming con, the wall protecting the US from illegal immigrants, the military as restoring the US might of old, etc.
It will be some time until problems with health provision and education start affecting them. Those oil pipes leaking or exploding. Prices sky rocketing.

illegitimateMortificadospawn · 25/01/2017 13:45

I too value these threads. We are all busy people, so keeping tabs on the emerging situation can be hard. It's great to have lots of people pooling info, links & resources.

OhYouBadBadKitten · 25/01/2017 13:45

interview with washington post including talking about military parades.

Roussette · 25/01/2017 13:48

As we will be up to 1,000 shortly, HERE is new thread. Amble across when this fills up!

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TuckersBadLuck · 25/01/2017 13:49

Military parades? What - with missiles and tanks?

Ahem...

uk.businessinsider.com/trump-inauguration-parade-tanks-missile-launchers-2017-1

illegitimateMortificadospawn · 25/01/2017 13:52

If anything screams 'tiny winky compensation' more than a sports car, it is a missile launcher. Wink

BoreOfWhabylon · 25/01/2017 14:00

sunlightfoundation.com/list-of-federal-government-agencies-told-not-to-communicate-with-the-public/

Includes: The National Institutes of Health were “to hold on publishing new rules or guidance in the Federal Register or other public forums and discussing them with public officials until the Administration has had an opportunity to review them,” per Institutes spokeswoman Renate Myles. [SOURCE: Politico]

This is CLINICAL GUIDANCE!!! Shock

On a par with NICE being ordered not to publish any new Guidance until politicos have crawled all over it.

nauticant · 25/01/2017 14:04

Give the administration time to settle in and once you do it'll be worth comparing their relationship with the American people. It'll read like a classic abusive partner script.

PausingFlatly · 25/01/2017 14:06

Still, they couldn't have voted for Hillary 'cos she was a warmonger. Hmm

megletthesecond · 25/01/2017 14:08

The Alt Nat Park Service are a breath of fresh air.

I'm no fan of Teresa May but Bloody Hell she's got her work cut out tomorrow.

I see he's tweeting from his personal account again.

Roussette · 25/01/2017 14:19

Good good good.

In response to Trumper's threat to "send in the Feds" to Chicago... this reply.... amongst others...

Rev Jesse Jackson SrVerified account
‏*@RevJJackson*
We need a plan, not a threat. We need jobs, not jails. #Chicago

And the Mayor, who has been asking for federal government help said this.. "Over the years the federal government's stepped back their resources, which we have stepped up," Emanuel said in an interview with WTTW's Chicago Tonight on Monday. "The federal government can be a partner, and to be honest they haven't been for decades."

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Roussette · 25/01/2017 14:20

NEW THREAD

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Lweji · 25/01/2017 14:49

Still, they couldn't have voted for Hillary 'cos she was a warmonger

Hawkish, even.

But that's because she distrusted Russia. Hmm

Lweji · 25/01/2017 14:51

BoreOfWhabylon

What do they want to review healthwise? I hope it's not vaccines.

Spudlet · 25/01/2017 14:59

'We will strengthen up voting procedures' - code for disenfranchising BAME voters. The Republicans have already tried this in parts of America, requiring voter ID etc - things like passports and driving licences that people of colour are apparently less likely to hold. Angry

Spudlet · 25/01/2017 15:01

www.aclu.org/other/oppose-voter-id-legislation-fact-sheet

Voter ID laws deprive many voters of their right to vote, reduce participation, and stand in direct opposition to our country’s trend of including more Americans in the democratic process. Many Americans do not have one of the forms of identification states acceptable for voting. These voters are disproportionately low-income, racial and ethnic minorities, the elderly, and people with disabilities.

PausingFlatly · 25/01/2017 17:00

Oh fuckinell.

From the antidotezine article Trump Knows You Better Than You Know Yourself linked on the new thread:
'In the Miami neighborhood of Little Haiti, Cambridge Analytica regaled residents with messages about the failures of the Clinton Foundation after the 2010 earthquake in Haiti, in order to dissuade them from turning out for Clinton. This was one of the goals: to get potential but wavering Clinton voters—skeptical leftists, African-Americans, young women—to stay home. To "suppress" their votes, as one Trump campaign staffer bluntly put it. In these so-called dark posts (paid Facebook ads which appear in the timelines only of users with a particular suitable personality profile), African-Americans, for example, are shown the nineties-era video of Hillary Clinton referring to black youth as "super predators." '

That's exactly what I think I've been seeing on MN wrt to feminist interests. To a tee. Introduce doubt, get people to stay at home or not wholeheartedly support something they'd naturally and on-balance support.

Look at the reception of the women's march blog post ("Nah, course we shouldn't go"). Which starkly contrasted with the enthusiastic threads after the march ("That showed the TransActivists and slimy anti-feminist Piers Morgan.")

I'm not suggesting that any particular poster on the blog thread was originating the "don't march" message , and there were many thoughtful posts, carefully analysing important stuff. But. The outcome was posters working themselves into a position where they wouldn't attend the march.

And I thought, "Who wanted this outcome? And when did trans issues become so large that women choose not to join women's marches just because trans? We're being nerd-sniped."

(I haven't re-read the threads to analyse in detail, so maybe I've got this all wrong - it's only my impression. But bloody hell that article rings bells.)

amispartacus · 25/01/2017 17:35

pausing

Do you want to post that on the new thread...

It is fascinating and worrying how social media can be used to manipulate people. Forget targeting the right papers and houses - companies know so much about you they can target you.

(It happened here on Brexit, I should imagine)

That's also why it's important to challenge.I would love to ignore but you can't

PausingFlatly · 25/01/2017 18:03

I'll need to think it through before reposting, as I'm shooting from the hip here.

But it tied up with spudlet's comment about voter suppression by more traditional means...

thecatfromjapan · 17/07/2018 00:29

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