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Who should go to work tomorrow?

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NotSureICanDoIt · Yesterday 20:02

Today was my first day at a new job - one I am very lucky to have. I probably wouldn’t find another one as good again. Not going in tomorrow will look very, very bad and potentially jeopardise my job.
DP is a GP and has a 30 patient clinic tomorrow.

DD3 is ill. Some sort of virus, fever, headache, sore throat, no appetite. There’s no way she’ll be well enough for nursery tomorrow.

DP thinks I should stay home with her and I think he should. Up until this point I’ve been a SAHM so things like this weren’t an issue. He has never ever had to cancel work before.

Who gets to go to work tomorrow?

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Shouldgivethisup · Yesterday 21:49

Has he prescribed anything for her? He’s the best person to look after a sick child as a GP

Ponderingwindow · Yesterday 21:50

Even doctors have to miss work to take care of their children. For the short-term most child responsibility is going to fall to him. Once you are a bit more established, the two of you can switch off and share the burden.

PullTheBricksDown · Yesterday 21:50

BurnoutGP · Yesterday 21:11

Wow so clearly no one has any idea AT all how a general practice works. Not at all.
So HE is THE locum. He will be covering someone already off. He may be the only doctor covering. Even if he isn't l, the other GP cant just soak up 30 patients! Are you all mad.
What will happen depending on what he is covering. Those 30 patients will be cancelled. They may not be able to be seen for some time. All other appts will likely be changed to urgent only. The chances of a last minute locum to cover him is slim to nothing.
The partners and manager will be pissed. They will definitely never use him again. Depending on what the area is like, he may very well end up blacklisted locally.
I can only imagine the thread if one of you had their GP appt cancelled last minute. You'd be screeching from the rafters.
OP what is your job?

This is the third post saying that a locum who has to call in to take urgent parental leave to look after their sick child will lose work in future, and may be blacklisted in that area. This doesn't help anything and surely makes it more likely that patients will have to wait even longer to be seen. I'm disappointed but not surprised that GP practices behave in this way. No wonder the NHS is in such a state when refusing work to a locum on this basis is such a likely outcome. Hardly patient centred, is it?

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WaitingforthatRain26 · Yesterday 21:50

shuggles · Yesterday 21:44

Jesus Christ, only on this website do people prioritise one person's job above 30 sick people. "Me me me most important, me come first."

If OP's job gets rid of her for taking time off to look after a child, then that's not a job that she wants to have anyway.

So the OP should sacrifice herself, her earnings and her career because the NHS is failing? A GP is a job. They should be able to arrange cover, like in any other job.

HettyTagliatelli · Yesterday 21:52

Anothercake · Yesterday 20:49

No, they aren't his patients. He's a locum. Even if they were, most have minor issues that aren't time critical. He's a GP, not god.

Yes, but for someone who has cancer that is spreading while undiagnosed and the person who has plucked up the courage to make an appointment after struggling with mental health for months, he’s all they’ve got.

Lots of GP appointments are for minor things that can easily wait, but some are life changing. It should take more than a mild toddler illness for those people to be let down.

Hotmess54 · Yesterday 21:53

You go to work, and see if he can do any phone calls while DD sleeps?

Whaleandsnail6 · Yesterday 21:55

£500 is a massive amount of money to loose!

I'd suggest we both do half a day. So you ring your boss in the morning, explain that dd is sick and ask if you can come in at lunch

Dh goes to work in the morning, sees morning clinic whilst the surgery cancels/tries to cover afternoon clinic then he comes and takes over dd

That way you both get to do some work commitments.

Nowhere I have ever worked would criticise someone ringing in on second day/first week of employment....we accept people are human and life happens.

ClimbTheLadder · Yesterday 21:55

You go to work tomorrow, ‘parent’ who thinks he’s too important to actually parent needs to step up. As an aside some of those patients would probably rather see another gp ie one who doesn’t have a sick child at home

FiveEightNine · Yesterday 21:57

comealongdobbeh · Yesterday 20:54

as you’ve acknowledged, it was silly of you both to not have already discussed this.

no, it isn’t a good look on your second day.

but ultimately, your job is not life or death. your husband’s job could be the difference between someone’s life or death. Literally.

my plan therefore would be:

-you stay home tomorrow. you apologise to work and take it on the chin. You have a child - it cannot be helped
-he plans for taking weds/thurs off, giving the surgery enough notice to cover his patients or rearrange etc
-you kick ass at work weds/thurs
-you both make a plan for Friday on Wednesday night depending on how your DC is

Ps. Congrats on your new job x

This sounds good!

What are the chances the toddler will be fine in 1 day?

Taking 1 day of work - and explaining the father is taking the other two days show the employer that going forward that you are serious about the work and that your child has a father.
Potentially, maybe you would have a chance to arrange some care for Friday so the week would be covered?

--
Btw, the question shouldn't be "you (singular) don't have anyone able to cover a day?", it should be either you (plural) or he doesn't have anyone?

Backup care isn't the mum's responsibility.

SecretsAndLies77 · Yesterday 21:57

100% you

Copyalex · Yesterday 21:58

Hotdoughnut · Yesterday 20:08

He needs to step up 50:50 now you're working, but 100% during probation period. The fact he's refusing to even during your probation tells you that he still thinks childcare is totally on you. Good luck with that.

I agree with this. You’re going to have to start as you mean to go. I was in a similar position (returning to work after being a SAHM for years) and had to push back a lot.

Horses7 · Yesterday 21:59

I’m amazed you haven’t thought of situations like this BEFORE you got a job/started work.
Children are often ill and nurseries often send them home/ refuse to have them. Sort out your childcare back up plans A,B and C as you/H can’t just stay at home every single time!!

Supersimkin7 · Yesterday 22:00

How many other GPs are working? Only 4 or 5 patients each extra if they’re at full staffing.

Imdunfer · Yesterday 22:02

PullTheBricksDown · Yesterday 21:50

This is the third post saying that a locum who has to call in to take urgent parental leave to look after their sick child will lose work in future, and may be blacklisted in that area. This doesn't help anything and surely makes it more likely that patients will have to wait even longer to be seen. I'm disappointed but not surprised that GP practices behave in this way. No wonder the NHS is in such a state when refusing work to a locum on this basis is such a likely outcome. Hardly patient centred, is it?

The work will go to more reliable locums. That's how self employment works, you can't do the work reliably, the contract goes to someone else. It's no reflection on the NHS at all.

Horses7 · Yesterday 22:02

PullTheBricksDown · Yesterday 21:50

This is the third post saying that a locum who has to call in to take urgent parental leave to look after their sick child will lose work in future, and may be blacklisted in that area. This doesn't help anything and surely makes it more likely that patients will have to wait even longer to be seen. I'm disappointed but not surprised that GP practices behave in this way. No wonder the NHS is in such a state when refusing work to a locum on this basis is such a likely outcome. Hardly patient centred, is it?

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nocoolnamesleft · Yesterday 22:03

He's already the locum. The chance of getting another one for tomorrow, now, is zero. Many practices only have a couple of doctors working at a time, you can't just double their workload. The patients will be cancelled. And he is likely to be blacklisted.

AgnesMcDoo · Yesterday 22:03

You go to work

Crunchy7 · Yesterday 22:04

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Imdunfer · Yesterday 22:04

Supersimkin7 · Yesterday 22:00

How many other GPs are working? Only 4 or 5 patients each extra if they’re at full staffing.

You're assuming that he's in a 7 GP practice and the other 6 can all do over an hour's extra work tomorrow?

ThisSparklyHelper · Yesterday 22:04

If you search online for "last minute childcare" a number of sites come up that may be an option for you.

Notquitethetruth · Yesterday 22:04

NotSureICanDoIt · Yesterday 20:44

No, there isn’t anybody else, unfortunately.
I’m not sure whether patients will still get seen but that’s not his problem?

I had some sympathy for you until I read this. Your attitude to patients already booked is nasty. Let's hope none of those patients who may not get seen has anything seriously wrong with them.

Periperi2025 · Yesterday 22:04

stichguru · Yesterday 20:19

What will actually be the repercussion of him taking the day off?
What will actually be the repercussion of you taking the day off?

YOU GO IN

  • if you might actually lose the job because it's the kind of job where they can fire you for anything in your probationary period.
  • his colleagues will be overworked but still see most people
HE GOES IN
  • if you'll just maybe not get paid and will look a bit lazy and won't make a good first impression,
  • if someone with potential cancer may not get seen and then they might wait a week for another appointment while their cancer is spreading, and they might have long term disability or die because of the delay.

if someone with potential cancer may not get seen and then they might wait a week for another appointment while their cancer is spreading, and they might have long term disability or die because of the delay.

No health professional should be thinking like this, it is profoundly bad for their mental and physical health. I've had managers try to pull this shit on me.

If he doesn't go to work, because his DD ill, he has the flu, his mother dies, his house burnt down, then staffing continguency plans should kick in and manage the situation. No one health care professional is solely responsible for the survival of another human based merely on their attendence or absence.

Cadeaukatze · Yesterday 22:05

MassiveOvaryaction · Yesterday 21:32

In a similar situation donkeys years ago I had to miss my very first day in a new job (dh wasn't in the country so I guess a bit different to you). My career didn't suffer.

I think more people are relying on your dh than they are on you so I'd take the hit and take the day with your daughter.

I think the same. I was ill on the second day of a new job. I did go in but was sent home. I was there well over two years.

I think his day is more important tomorrow.

But you have to work out a solution for this in future. You can potentially WFH with a sick child if they spend the day in bed or in front of Cbeebies as a one-off but you can't rely on it.

Imdunfer · Yesterday 22:05

Shouldgivethisup · Yesterday 21:49

Has he prescribed anything for her? He’s the best person to look after a sick child as a GP

He's not allowed, she's family.

Cadeaukatze · Yesterday 22:08

Whaleandsnail6 · Yesterday 21:55

£500 is a massive amount of money to loose!

I'd suggest we both do half a day. So you ring your boss in the morning, explain that dd is sick and ask if you can come in at lunch

Dh goes to work in the morning, sees morning clinic whilst the surgery cancels/tries to cover afternoon clinic then he comes and takes over dd

That way you both get to do some work commitments.

Nowhere I have ever worked would criticise someone ringing in on second day/first week of employment....we accept people are human and life happens.

This is also a good suggestion - at least some patients would be seen and maybe some could be changed to telephone appointments.