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Small boat arrivals at Gosport tonight - huge police motorcade

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PassMeTheInternet · Yesterday 22:49

This is the police escort for the latest small boat arrivals at Gosport tonight.

What on earth is going on with this country?

I don’t know how to link a video from Twitter. The videos show the full extent of the operation.

Small boat arrivals at Gosport tonight - huge police motorcade
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hedgeknight · Today 10:25

Fantomfartflinger · Today 10:10

The point is it shouldn’t be their job. Not only can it be stopped, it should never have started. You either come in with permission or not at all. It’s the posters that say they should just get processed who are missing the point. Plus apparently you cannot deport back to certain countries, so you cannot be let in from those countries purely in that basis imo.

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I agree that boat crossings shouldn't be happening, there should be humanitarian routes available for seeking asylum in the UK

But as long as small boats ae a thing, the UK should not let them float on sea or let them drown.

Read up on the non-refoulement principle if you want to know why we can't deport them back to certain countries.

samthepigeon · Today 10:26

Nutmuncher · Today 10:01

If these men have wives and children in their original country what happens to them?

The journey is dangerous, which is why only 30% of the crossings are by women and children. If the men are granted asylum, they can bring their families by a safe route.

PassMeTheInternet · Today 10:27

LakieLady · Today 06:22

They are "concerned people" who would happily see, and be complicit in, other people drowning. If that's what being "concerned" means, I'd prefer people not to give a fuck, frankly.

The RNLI are bloody heroes and to put them in jeopardy too is beyond vile. I was so angry that I've set up a standing order donation for them now.

I find this notion that the only way to stop the small boats is to let people drown bizarre. Actually I think it’s disingenuous. You know perfectly well there are options between “rolling out the red carpet with motorcade and pyjamas” and “letting people drown” as well as I do.

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TemperanceWest · Today 10:27

WouldYouLikeAnyToast · Today 10:22

Then when you do see news reports on FB about a child drowning (I did a while back, I'll try and find it)
you'll get loads of arseholes laugh reacting under it as they don't believe it happened or are glad (one less) type comment. They're sick, radicalised fuck ups.

Yes. The family of four that drowned recently had that sort of sick reaction from those same fuck ups.

EasternStandard · Today 10:27

WouldYouLikeAnyToast · Today 10:23

Why not answer the question?.What is the solution to stopping them completely?
Maybe you're thinking build a wall in the middle of the channel?.

Either return to France, perhaps the French elections will play a role as Bardella has indicated this. Or Australia’s policies work.

Clavinova · Today 10:27

LakieLady · Today 08:16

I know someone who lives in Crowborough, and they were complaining about this. I pointed out that they would probably complain if they were hanging around in Crowborough all day too, and that maybe it's a way of dispersing the impact across the wider area.

They should maybe bus them a bit further afield though. Lewes has a very active refugee and asylum seeker support group, they'd probably get a warmer welcome there.

Lewes has a very active refugee and asylum seeker support group, they'd probably get a warmer welcome there

When I looked at the Lewes Resettlement Programme for Syrian refugees, it seemed to me that most of the refugees (20 or 30) had actually been housed in Seaford and Newhaven, presumably where housing is much cheaper. Another case of 'Refugees Welcome' as long as they don't live in my pretty market town?

(I am aware that there is a prison in Lewes - however, the residents are locked up).

WouldYouLikeAnyToast · Today 10:28

PassMeTheInternet · Today 10:27

I find this notion that the only way to stop the small boats is to let people drown bizarre. Actually I think it’s disingenuous. You know perfectly well there are options between “rolling out the red carpet with motorcade and pyjamas” and “letting people drown” as well as I do.

Again, what do you suggest is done to any boats that are already in the channel then?
What are your suggestions?

WouldYouLikeAnyToast · Today 10:28

TemperanceWest · Today 10:27

Yes. The family of four that drowned recently had that sort of sick reaction from those same fuck ups.

😓

samthepigeon · Today 10:29

Pineneedlesincarpet · Today 00:49

Its a shame that the effect of the small boats is to infect and corrupt so much of the UK now. Even the RNLI ..a stand-up organisation if there ever was one is being sucked in..and will be badly damaged as a result of the governments inability to control not the protesters but our borders.

Less than 2% of the work of the brave RNLI volunteers is dealing with small boats.

EasternStandard · Today 10:29

samthepigeon · Today 10:26

The journey is dangerous, which is why only 30% of the crossings are by women and children. If the men are granted asylum, they can bring their families by a safe route.

Labour are changing family reunification so it’s pretty much impossible. Due to earning thresholds etc

Tiredtyre · Today 10:32

I was asked for links to dead women, raped women and murdered women on the migrant boats. My comment was deleted as I think mumsnet thought it was untrue.

I can only add 5 pictures but this was a quick Google search. I omitted the multitudes of women who suffocate on the boats, or the three women recently who all had spontaneous heart attacks....

Small boat arrivals at Gosport tonight - huge police motorcade
Small boat arrivals at Gosport tonight - huge police motorcade
Small boat arrivals at Gosport tonight - huge police motorcade
Small boat arrivals at Gosport tonight - huge police motorcade
Small boat arrivals at Gosport tonight - huge police motorcade
DogAnxiety · Today 10:32

Here are some EDL bullshit bingo words you can check off in posts:

army
fighting-age men
replacing “are” indigenous population
danger to women and girls
grooming and rape
economic migrants
why don’t they live by our roolz
muslims are just backward
are boys cant wear balaclavas but “them burkers” are fine
the boat numbers might are down but the boats are bigger (ignoring the number of migrants being actually significantly down)
Jumping the “que” for housing/ getting a Merc/ how come they can afford Nike clothing etc etc etc
its not just the boats, it’s the lorries too
being proud of are country
and the evergreen…”I’m definitely not a racist”

WoesFromAuntFlo · Today 10:33

Imagine blaming the migrants for the police presence and not the fucking hooligans slashing boats WITH HUMAN BEINGS IN THEM.

samthepigeon · Today 10:34

PassMeTheInternet · Today 00:54

Do you think there should be any limit to the number of people the tax payer support if they turn up on our shores?

I am not sure anyone is saying there shouldn't be a limit. Asylum applications should be processed as quickly as possible. Under the last government, a huge backlog was built up. This is not good for anyone. We are now having to house and feed people for much longer than before, which is unacceptable. However, numbers crossing the Channel are falling, and the process is being sped up. Not yet perfect, but heading in the right direction. You have to ask why is there all this outrage now, and why wasn't it there before when the problems were building up and were bigger.

WouldYouLikeAnyToast · Today 10:34

WoesFromAuntFlo · Today 10:33

Imagine blaming the migrants for the police presence and not the fucking hooligans slashing boats WITH HUMAN BEINGS IN THEM.

👏👏
Also can't be said loud enough - human beings
Evil starts to flourish when you start dehumanising people.

samthepigeon · Today 10:35

AnonyMumAuDHD · Today 09:06

What I don’t understand is: they are in inflatables. These are inflated on the French shores. Why don’t the French simply take a knife to them at the shoreline to deflate them, before anyone has boarded, before anyone is at risk. If you disable the boats at source, no-one can board them?

This is happening more now, but the shoreline is thousands of miles long and very hard to police.

oldFoolMe · Today 10:37

PassMeTheInternet · Yesterday 23:35

A genuine question, I’m sure. Maybe start by googling “Somalia women’s rights” and take it from there?

So if a women has no rights which you have called out and is unable to leave without a male escort, can you understand why a male might want to Make that journey first and bring the women?

Dollymylove · Today 10:37

LizzieSiddal · Today 10:18

Violent white Men in balaclavas just wanting a fight. Most of them, when arrested already have form for DV. They’d all be football hooligans if it was still a thing.

And they remind me of that environmental group who kept closing roads and stopping ambulances, not many people supported them and the same goes for these violent thugs.

Yet the pro Pally lot with their chequered scarfs covering their faces, screaming d*th to J*s, is deemed acceptable. 2 tier policing at its finest!!

PassMeTheInternet · Today 10:37

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What’s the weather like on the Russian bot farm today?

This is such a ridiculous comment when hundreds have people have turned up at Gosport. Are they all Russian bots? Try talking to anyone outside of the liberal middle classes (and even some of them increasingly) and you will learn this is not a minority view.

Of course the government can’t let “protesters” kill migrants on entry, or let them die in the sea. (What method of stopping them are you actually advocating? It’s not like successive govts haven’t been trying.)

No-one is suggesting this. It is disingenuous to claim this is the only possible solution.

And we all know the violent thugs in balaclavas, the rioters and “protesters”, are quite likely to have convictions for domestic violence - so all this “protect our women” crap is just a thin excuse.

They are not all men and they are not in balaclavas. Look at the videos, stop spreading lies.

Just stop trying to sow discord, bot. Everyone wants a safe, decent country. But conspiracy theories and vigilantism aren’t going to help us achieve that.

Are you calling me a bot? What do you mean? I am a person, a wife, a mother, a concerned citizen. Don’t try to dehumanise me just because you’d rather not face difficult realities.

Absolutely amazing that you think everyone wants a safe, decent country. I suggest you read about Islamist terrorism if it’s managed to pass you by.

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EmeraldRoulette · Today 10:38

CoventryCity · Today 10:11

Ok ok. People can’t handle the truth or humour. I suppose it’s why the comedians are having problems these days. Gervais like Rowling is wealthy enough not to care though, thankfully.

What I mean is I understand what you’re saying @WouldYouLikeAnyToast @EmeraldRoulette . You’re right. It’s a state of affairs that is contrary to everything in which I believe. The truth and humour. Bloody depressing that so many people are quashing both of these things these days.

But humour that you and I might share in the pub, knowing we have common frames of reference…. You can’t just put them out there in front of strangers because you will be misunderstood. It’s know your audience, basically.

my view of all of this is shaped by living near one of the hotels. That’s from 2016. Social media didn’t even mention it in those days. <waves stick>

LizzieSiddal · Today 10:39

I’m not sure I’ll get an answer to this question but if the Uk was invaded by say Russia or China and our lives were absolutely horrific, wouldn’t you be helping and encouraging your young adult son/daughter to get to a safe country so they could have a better life?

I know, without a doubt I would be!

EasternStandard · Today 10:39

Tiredtyre · Today 10:32

I was asked for links to dead women, raped women and murdered women on the migrant boats. My comment was deleted as I think mumsnet thought it was untrue.

I can only add 5 pictures but this was a quick Google search. I omitted the multitudes of women who suffocate on the boats, or the three women recently who all had spontaneous heart attacks....

I’m not sure why the risk is disputed. The Med in particular is harsh. But the risk across the Channel is increasing due to the number of people on unsafe dinghies, distance travelled and some of what you’ve put here.

NancyThompson · Today 10:39

oldFoolMe · Today 10:37

So if a women has no rights which you have called out and is unable to leave without a male escort, can you understand why a male might want to Make that journey first and bring the women?

And you understand why some might not want the male here?

DogAnxiety · Today 10:40

Oh I forgot a couple!

Sausages - this seems to be your racist’s insult of choice at the moment
Some stupid comment about Lefties/leftys/ liberals
Inexplicably there is also often some comment about Ukraine/ Russia thrown in there - how very strange indeed
And/ or something about Palestinian sympathisers.

CoventryCity · Today 10:42

Clavinova · Today 10:27

Lewes has a very active refugee and asylum seeker support group, they'd probably get a warmer welcome there

When I looked at the Lewes Resettlement Programme for Syrian refugees, it seemed to me that most of the refugees (20 or 30) had actually been housed in Seaford and Newhaven, presumably where housing is much cheaper. Another case of 'Refugees Welcome' as long as they don't live in my pretty market town?

(I am aware that there is a prison in Lewes - however, the residents are locked up).

There have been rapes by asylum seekers / immigrants on many of the south coast beaches (Seaford to Brighton to Hove to Bournemouth) I hope my geography is correct.,. Not heard of any in Lewes. Peculiar.